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They Tried to Kill Me for My Christian Faith. So I Fled.

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Christianity Today

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.3622 Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2019

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Last week, the US hosted its second religious freedom ministerial, an event which calls attention to the plight of those suffering persecution for their faith (or lack thereof), around the world. The same week, Politico reported that some in the Trump administration were advocating to slash the refugee program to zero next year. In light of the significant cuts to the program that the administration has already made, CT asked Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who was organizing the ministerial, to respond to arguments that the refugee program had closed off “one of the avenues that people of minority faiths have to escape their persecution.” His response: This administration appropriately is incredibly proud of how we treat those who are at risk around the world. I think there’s no nation in history that has accepted as many refugees as the United States has, nor whom has an even broader acceptance of people coming from around the world—both to come here to study and to learn, but those who want to come here permanently as well. Our focus here at the State Department has been to do our level best to do what we believe these people actually want: to help them stay inside of their own country, to deliver them goods and services and benefits, and to help shape their government policies in ways that permit them not to have to flee the country but allow them to exist safely and securely inside of their own country. Now on staff at World Relief Dupage/Aurora, Durmomo Gary came to the United States over a decade ago. He left Sudan in the early 2000s after an attempt on his life because of his Christian faith and recently wrote about his experiences for the Daily Herald. "We landed in New York on October 31. As an American you know what day that is,” he said. “We landed in the airport and all I can see around is creepy costumes. Never read about it. Never heard about it. It freaked me out.” Gary and his wife survived the bizarre cultural experience to make their transfer to Chicago and begin the US side of the refugee resettlement process. Gary joined digital media producer Morgan Lee and editor in chief Mark Galli to discuss what happens when you find out someone’s trying to kill you, how to get a passport when people are trying to kill you, and what it’s like to be a Christian in Sudan v. America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:11.1

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0:14.5

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0:37.6

Today is Thursday, July 25th, and you're listening to Quick to Listen, where we go beyond hashtags and hot takes and discuss a major cultural event.

0:53.3

I'm Morgan Lee, digital media producer here at Christian Day today, and I'm with my co-host,

0:55.4

Mark Galley, our editor-in-chief. Hey, Mark.

1:00.2

Hey, Morgan. How you enjoying this weather after we had a listeners already? We had this horrendous heat spell, which made us drip with sweat, but now we're having a, what we call

1:04.6

an ideal summer. Cool in the mornings, warm in the afternoons, beautiful evenings.

1:09.4

I mean, I basically like anything that's warm.

1:11.7

I'm not too part of the place.

1:13.3

So even when it was really hot, I was still happy.

1:15.6

Humidity is awesome and my best time.

1:17.6

Well, I would have to agree with that.

1:18.9

Now, my wife's of a different opinion.

1:21.9

I know.

1:22.5

Hard when you have to live under the same roof with someone who doesn't agree with you about the weather.

1:26.1

Yeah.

1:26.6

And you have thermostat wars. Who's going to control the thermostat? I will say my room and I do get along

1:32.3

around that really well, which I really appreciate. I will say my wife is very gracious,

1:37.3

even though she disagrees with me sometimes when I turn on the air conditioner. She says,

1:41.7

okay, if you want. That is smart. All right, who's joining us today?

1:47.0

Joining us today is Dermomo Gary. He's originally from Sudan. He lives in Carroll Stream. He's an

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