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Should You Pass Your Church to Your Son (or Daughter)?

Quick to Listen

Christianity Today

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.3622 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2019

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

It claims 100,000 members. It owns and operates an evangelical television channel, two schools, the first and only private prison in Korea, and hospitals in Korea and Ethiopia. Forty years ago, Myungsung Presbyterian Church in Korea was founded by Kim Sam-whan, its now pastor emeritus. But the church is currently involved in a crisis over who will be its next pastor. Kim Sam-whan gave his senior pastor position to his son in 2017. But the Presbyterian denomination to which it belongs says that it violated part of the denomination’s constitution, which prohibits the transference of pastor or elder positions to family members. According to CT’s reporting: “Defenders argue that Kim Ha-na was elected in accordance with Myungsung’s laws, and the denomination that Kim Sam-whan once headed should not meddle in the megachurch’s affairs. Critics argue that the denomination’s flagship church is flouting the corporate laws it must heed.” Because the first wave of megachurches started in South Korea, church leaders in that country have been thinking about the proper procedures for succession for several years now, says Warren Bird, the vice president of research and equipping for the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability. But this issue is something that churches have been wrestling with for years. “Nepotism came from a church context, nephew-ism. It was where certain priests had certain sons and certain nephews that they wanted to position well in the responsibilities and hierarchies of the church,” he said. “Of course the question was: Did they really father the child?” Bird joined digital media producer Morgan Lee and editor in chief Mark Galli to discuss how the Bible handles succession, how it affected the church’s rules about celibacy, and when women are bequeathed the ministry. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:37.8

Today is Wednesday, July 17th, and you're listening to Quick to Listen, where we go beyond hashtags and hot takes discuss a major cultural event.

0:50.7

I'm Morgan Lee, digital media producer here at Christianity Today,

0:54.1

and I'm with my co-host, our editor-in-chief, Mark Alley. Mark, I know that you missed me

0:55.7

last week. I desperately missed you. Just glad that you admit it. Technically, during the show,

1:04.3

creating questions, all the work you do all the time. I'm thinking, that woman is not paid enough.

1:10.0

Wow. Well, thankfully, I know who can change that.

1:12.7

Yeah. Let's see. That would be our publisher. All right. Well, who is joining us today?

1:18.6

Joining us today is Warren Bird. He's a widely recognized expert in megachurches, multi-side churches,

1:24.8

large church compensation, and most pertinent today, high visibility,

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pastoral succession. He serves as a vice president of research and equipping for the Evangelical

1:33.0

Council for Financial Accountability that are known as ECFA among us. He is also senior fellow at

1:38.6

Leadership Network, and he's an award-winning author or co-author of more than 30 books, including

1:42.7

Hero Maker with Dave Ferguson,

1:44.8

How to Break Church Growth Barriers with Carl George, and with William Vanderblomen.

1:49.8

Next, Pastoral Succession That Works.

1:52.7

Hey, Warren.

1:53.5

Hey, wow.

1:55.0

This sounds like something good needs to come out of all those accolades.

1:59.2

Exactly.

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