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Responding to Josh Harris's Announcement

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Christianity Today

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.3622 Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2019

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Two weeks ago, Josh Harris, the author of the controversial Christian bestseller I Kissed Dating Goodbye, announced that he and his wife, Shannon, were ending their marriage. Last week, Harris published another Instagram post, this time about the state of his faith:I have undergone a massive shift in regard to my faith in Jesus. The popular phrase for this is “deconstruction,” the biblical phrase is “falling away.” By all the measurements that I have for defining a Christian, I am not a Christian. Many people tell me that there is a different way to practice faith and I want to remain open to this, but I’m not there now.Harris’s announcement caught editor Drew Dyck off guard.“I think my shock probably pales in comparison to the shock and even the grief that the people that sat under his ministry for over a decade would feel,” said Dyck, the author of Generation Ex-Christian: Why Young Adults Are Leaving the Church … and how to Bring Them Back. “There's a lot of consternation when your pastor says he's ‘falling away’ from faith because it's an implicit threat to your own faith.”Dyck joined digital media producer Morgan Lee and CT Pastors editor Kyle Rohane to discuss why people are leaving the church today, why you should react differently to your friend departing the faith than your child, and how to process our emotions and reactions we learn that public figures and loved ones have left Christianity. This episode of Quick to Listen is brought to you in part by Promise Keepers. The Christian men’s ministry that filled stadiums across America is, once again, calling on men to stand up and be counted. For more information, go to promisekeepers.org. Follow the podcast on Twitter Follow our host on Twitter: Morgan Lee Follow our guest on Twitter: Drew Dyck Music by Sweeps Quick to Listen is produced by Morgan Lee and Matt Linder Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you in part by The Apologetics Guy Show, the podcast that helps you find clear answers to tough questions about Christianity.

0:11.1

Learn to explain your faith with courage and compassion.

0:14.5

Join Moody Bible Institute professor Dr. Mikhail del Rosario at Ap apologetics guy.com.

0:37.8

It is Wednesday, July 31st, and you're listening to Quick to Listen, where we go beyond hashtags and hot takes discuss a major cultural event.

0:50.9

I'm Morgan Lee, digital media producer here at Christianity today.

0:56.9

I'm joined by my colleague, CT Pastors editor, Kyle Roane. Hi, Morgan. What's up,

1:03.1

Kyle? How are you? I'm doing well. I'm a little tired today from being up a lot of the night with a new baby, but otherwise, glad to be here. All things considered. I have a random question about your last name.

1:10.3

Are you a Lord the Rings fan at all?

1:13.9

I am. I am. Did you ever feel like my last name is similar to this, I don't know, kingdom, land of Rohan?

1:20.7

I feel like Tolkien messed up by accidentally misspelling Rohan. It should have had an E at the end.

1:27.2

Would that have made your life complete?

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Yeah, absolutely would have.

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All right, who's joining us today?

1:32.9

Someone else who has a great name as far as I know.

1:35.1

Yeah, so our guest this week is Drew Dick, and Drew is an acquisitions editor at Moody Publishers,

1:41.0

and he has written several books, including his most recent, which is

1:44.5

your future self-will-thank-you, secrets to self-control from the Bible and brain science,

1:49.2

and Generation X Christian, why young adults are leaving the church and how to bring them back.

1:54.5

And I first met Drew when I started at Christianity today because he was actually my first boss

1:59.5

here.

2:00.0

He was managing editor of leadership

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journal when I was an editorial resident. And these days, we've flipped the script a little bit,

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