This is LBC from Global, leading Britain's conversation with James O'Brien.

It's three minutes after ten. A very good morning indeed to you. And focus shifts, perhaps inevitably,

towards the technology and techniques of the government seeks or will seek to employ in order

to ease the impact, to ease the potential trauma of the loosening of the lockdown. All these

words that we've hardly ever used before. Sort of slipped, haven't they, into our daily vocabulary, almost unnoticed. I don't know where to start on this one. John's

on quite good form in a tweet here. He says, I'll download the government's NHS app if it comes

with a free copy of the Russia report. That's not exactly helpful, John. And Ian raises a point that I have heard

echoed elsewhere. There is zero chance I'm downloading an app that the government's mates have made.

Why, when the Google Apple version, have a version, did they need to develop their own if it isn't

to use the data for other things? They even state that they will keep the data for research.

And he adds a hashtag 1984. Let me stress from the beginning that I'm as new to this story as you are.

There isn't really much of a bedrock of knowledge or understanding that many of us can bring to the table,

because it is all so new.

And then I see interesting divisions of opinion from people who would perhaps

normally find themselves on different sides of arguments.

So a lot of people are wary of this app for what can only be described as surveillance suspicion. The idea

that giving the government access to your movements in this way leaves you feeling a little bit

chilly. Now, I don't know how long you've listened to me on the radio. If it's in the low

single figures of minutes, then this next little

contemplation is probably going to seem rather pointless to you. But I always try to bring

my own angle to something based on experience and honesty mostly before asking you to do the

same. And I have to tell you that historically,

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