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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

These Republicans are going...big government?

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

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🗓️ 3 September 2021

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

There's an intra-party fight on the right — and it's not (all) about Trump! For decades, conservatives have called for the government to take a hands-off approach to the economy. But now, a group of self-styled “common good capitalists” — like Sen. Marco Rubio — want to change that. And, they’re gaining power. It’s a divide not only over what policy approach is best, but what the most effective political strategy is for the GOP in the 21st century. Playbook co-author Tara Palmeri talks with an influential voice in this new economic counterculture — Oren Cass, head of American Compass and Mitt Romney's former campaign advisor, as well as Eliana Johnson, POLITICO Magazine contributor and editor-in-chief of the Washington Free Beacon, about this policy divide and where the 2024 GOP hopefuls land on this spectrum. Tara Palmeri is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Eliana Johnson is a contributing editor for POLITICO Magazine and editor-in-chief of the Washington Free Beacon.Oren Cass is Mitt Romney's former campaign advisor and executive director of American Compass.Adrienne Hurst is a producer for POLITICO audio.Annie Rees is a producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is the senior producer for POLITICO audio.Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Well, there's definitely a confluence of political and economic factors here.

0:08.4

I think there's a recognition that the economy really has been leaving large groups of Americans

0:14.6

behind, and particularly those who are typically described as working class, folks with less

0:20.2

than a college degree.

0:21.9

A big policy fight is brewing on the right, and this time the fight is not all about Trump.

0:28.6

Some of the most conservative Republicans are pushing the government to get more,

0:32.6

rather than less involved in national economic policy. Doesn't sound very Republican, does it?

0:38.0

To say that we are going to combine the more basic socially conservative outlook of the right of

0:43.9

center that rejects a lot of the more radically progressive items that the left of center has

0:50.5

at the top of its agenda right now.

0:52.3

The emergence of this new economic counterculture, some might call it,

0:56.3

is loosely connected to a two-year-old think tank, American compass, run by war and cast.

1:01.8

But I would say we're more somewhere in between a publication and a think tank.

1:06.3

Either self-styled, common good capitalist.

1:09.8

Partly, I do just like arguing.

1:11.8

And he wants to convince other Republicans to run with a different economic message.

1:16.1

But I think there's a substantive point here, and it goes to what I was sort of describing as our

1:21.8

goal.

1:22.6

And some lawmakers are actually getting on board.

1:24.9

Well, I think it's tremendously popular policy platform, like Marco Rubio.

1:40.0

Welcome to Playbook Deep Dive. I'm Tara Palmerry.

1:44.1

You know, my preferred term for the work we're doing at American Compass is just conservatism.

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