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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

How Kamala Harris is embracing — and changing — the system

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Politics, Government

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Kamala Harris entered law school as the daughter of activists and came out as a prosecutor — an evolution that shaped the politician she is today. Now, as the vice president grapples with some of the thorniest issues in politics and builds relationships with a wide array of Democratic allies — which she could leverage in both the administration and a future presidential campaign — even some of her closest allies admit she needs help fending off incoming fire. POLITICO Magazine’s Jesús A. Rodríguez and Playbook co-author Eugene Daniels dig into the Veep’s law school past, her performance eight months in and how wearing the mantle of “first” comes layered with racism and misogyny. Eugene Daniels is a co-author of POLITICO Playbook.Jesús A. Rodríguez is a contributing editor for POLITICO Magazine.Adrienne Hurst is a producer for POLITICO audio.Annie Rees is a producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO audio. Read more from Jesús: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/08/18/kamala-harris-law-school-politics-503924 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Something that, you know, people say who study political sciences, like women operate differently when they are in charge, right?

0:08.6

And one of those ways is by listening, like the sounds that almost sounds trite. It's like, duh, but male politicians seem to listen less.

0:18.4

Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking.

0:19.7

I've been covering Vice President Karis very closely. She's a favorite target for conservatives.

0:29.6

Where is Karis? Where is Karis? Where is Karis?

0:31.9

It'll talk about the Southern border.

0:33.5

Yeah, because some of this is long to the Southern border.

0:35.7

And now, even some of her closest allies in it she needs help bending off incoming fire.

0:41.6

There's a difference between having these meetings actually, they will do something in here as a plan of attack.

0:46.4

Does she have one?

0:48.0

Wait, is it bonus points to figure out the word playbook?

0:50.6

Yes.

0:51.4

In the headline.

0:52.2

Okay, perfect.

0:55.2

All right, this is Playbook Deep Dive. I'm Eugene Daniels.

1:01.9

The Kamala Harris politics playbook began during her law school career.

1:06.5

Boom. My playbook headline would be Kamala Harris, the convener and chief.

1:11.9

Question mark?

1:13.1

I've watched as she builds relationships with a wider ray of democratic allies,

1:18.2

which she could leverage in the administration and a future presidential campaign.

1:23.3

My colleague, Jesus Rodriguez, and I met a few years ago,

1:26.8

when he was part of a student program here called the Political Journalism Institute.

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