‘The Whole Thing Is Built On Lies’ | Interview: Mark Clifford

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Mark Clifford, Hong Kong expert and biographer of Jimmy Lai, takes his stand on the floor of the House of Remnant to discuss Lai’s imprisonment, the future of Hong Kong and Taiwan, Han supremacy, COVID-19, and the future of the Chinese Communist Party. We’re running a listener survey, which you can find at thedispatch.typeform.com/podcast. Shownotes:—The Troublemaker: How Jimmy Lai Became a Billionaire, Hong Kong's Greatest Dissident, and China's Most Feared Critic—Mark’s website—The Death of Stalin The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:40.3	Dot typeform.com slash podcast. There's also a link in the show notes because that's a really
0:47.9	weird URL, but I'll read it to you again just in case. The dispatch. Dot type form, t-y-peform.com slash podcast. Also, just check out the link in the show notes. Oh! Oh! Oh! Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.
1:21.6	Can you digger? James.
1:34.4	These are listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.
1:36.3	I'm very excited about today's guests.
1:38.2	I've been wanted to talk about the topic and been wanting to have this guest on for a while.
1:42.0	The topic is basically Jimmy Lai and Hong Kong and
1:46.9	the future of China and what the hell's going on on a whole bunch of other fronts. And the guest
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