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Full Measure After Hours

The Whistleblowers v. The Big Guy

Full Measure After Hours

Sharyl Attkisson

News, News Commentary

4.91.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

There’s an important follow up to the IRS whistleblowers who exposed political interference in the Hunter Biden tax probe. More in the new book: “The Whistleblowers v. The Big Guy.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. It's Cheryl Ackison. Welcome to another edition of Full Measure After Hours. Today, the whistleblowers versus the big guy.

0:15.4

There's an important follow-up to the IRS whistleblowers who exposed political interference in the Hunter-Biden tax probe.

0:24.4

Sunday, March 22nd on full measure, I'll be speaking with one of the key figures,

0:29.6

Joseph Ziegler, the IRS criminal investigator who, believe me, had no idea what he was getting

0:35.5

into in 2018 when he first uncovered potential tax

0:39.3

fraud tied to the Bidens. The saga that followed involves allegations of serious cover-ups and

0:46.6

once facing retaliation for his disclosure, along with his supervisor Gary Shapley, well, the update has to do with some good news.

0:56.0

They've managed to turn the tables in a big way,

0:59.2

vindicated now with legal settlements and even promotions as you'll hear.

1:04.7

This is extremely rare for whistleblowers.

1:07.6

They almost always get the short end of the stick.

1:11.1

Here's my interview and an update with Joseph Ziegler.

1:20.5

So I was the primary case agent who initiated the case against Hunter Biden.

1:27.3

Just normal part of doing my job was reviewing

1:31.0

bank reports relating to a foreign social media company. And in those bank reports, it mentioned

1:37.2

some Russian prostitutes who were involved with Hunter Biden, and they related to the

1:42.9

social media company. So started looking into it.

1:45.9

There was some prior filings from Hunter's divorce with his ex-wife to where she mentioned that

1:52.0

Hunter had tax issues. She mentioned a diamond. So there were a lot of things that were in there

1:57.1

in the public record that said, okay, there's, there may be something here.

2:01.4

So I had no idea who Hunter was at the time, just knew the Biden name, that was it.

2:07.5

Started digging into it.

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