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Full Measure After Hours

After Hours: Tug of War: Trump Wants to Shut Down a Federal Media Agency

Full Measure After Hours

Sharyl Attkisson

News, News Commentary

4.91.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The US Agency for Global Media has been the subject of a tug of war since President Trump named Kari Lake to lead it and ultimately shut it down. A judge recently ruled that mass layoffs and other actions to dismantle the agency are void, because Lake’s initial appointment didn’t follow Senate confirmation requirements. Find out from Kari Lake why the agency is in Trump’s crosshairs. Order Sharyl’s new bestselling book: “Follow the $cience.” Subscribe to my two podcasts: “The Sharyl Attkisson Podcast” and “Full Measure After Hours.” Leave a review, subscribe and share with your friends! Support independent journalism by visiting the new Sharyl Attkisson store.

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0:00.0

Hi, everybody, it's Cheryl Ackison. Welcome to another edition of Full Measure After Hours.

0:10.1

Today, tug of war, Trump wants to shut down a federal media agency.

0:16.6

The U.S. Agency for Global Media has been the subject of a tug of war ever since President

0:22.6

Trump named Carrie Lake to lead it and ultimately to shut it down.

0:27.6

At least that was the goal.

0:29.6

A judge recently ruled that mass layoffs and other actions to dismantle the U.S. Agency for Global Media are void because the judge said Lake's initial

0:40.2

appointment didn't follow Senate confirmation requirements. Major decisions beside those mass layoffs

0:46.8

included restructuring efforts at Voice of America and some big cost-saving measures as well as anti-corruption moves.

0:56.6

The challenge to these things that Carrie Lake and President Trump wanted to do,

1:01.6

the challenge originated from a lawsuit brought by VOA journalists,

1:05.9

along with federal employee unions such as AFSC,

1:10.7

plus press freedom organizations who sought to

1:14.7

protect the agency as is and halt the dismantling attempts. They were part of the legal challenge as well.

1:22.5

All of this amid allegations that the organization had become politically biased, wasteful, and corrupted.

1:30.4

Now, the new head as a result of all of this is a woman named Sarah Rogers, with

1:35.2

Carrie Lake staying on as deputy CEO. It's unclear as of this recording whether Rogers will

1:41.7

try to re-implement the voided actions. It's just the latest effort

1:46.9

by Trump's opponents to use the courts to stop him from executing his agenda. No president has

1:53.6

ever faced such aggressive and persistent acts to obstruct nearly every item he and his supporters

1:59.7

want to be pursued.

2:07.3

Sunday, March 29th on full measure, I'm interviewing Carrie Lake, and I'll explain what the Agency for Global Media is exactly why it's in Trump's crosshairs and what makes his opponents

2:14.4

so anxious to preserve it.

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