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I'm Ben Dominic.

This was a difficult week for the current Defense Secretary of the United States, Pete

Heggseth, who saw the departure of numerous top aides, criticism from one of them openly in the pages of Politico,

and various long knives out in the anonymously sourced press about his future as Secretary of Defense.

For his part, he gave a significant pushback to this while appearing at the White House Easter egg role, of all places.

And he also seems to be supported by the president vociferously, who pushed back against reporting in the Wall Street Journal about an additional leakage of information potentially

on other signal chats that Hegsteth had potentially done

or been a part of.

I wanted to just unpack for a second

what I think is going on after talking to numerous people

who are within the orbit of these different factions of the current Trump administration.

And one thing that I think is being left out, really, is that this has mostly been a conversation

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