The War on Terror is a sprawling project that occurs inside the United States and outside

the United States, unbound by time, space, or a fixed enemy.

Its operations vary over its lifespan, and accordingly, however inconspicuous it seems

presently, we should not assume that it has reached its final form.

Hello and welcome to Wise This Happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

If you'll permit me a weird personal moment here, I was thinking about how to intro today's

conversation.

And you know, the thing that I think about most is just the where I was on September 11th,

which was driving a Lakeshore Drive with my then partner now wife Kate as we were going

to work in the South Loop and we heard about the planes.

This is of course like a totally banal, you know, generational experience, people that

were there.

And the fact of the matter is I was 22 on September 11th, 2001 and started writing soon

thereafter and spent the 20 years since then as a journalist in different forms.

And the constant through those 20 years of my time being a journalist has been the war

in Afghanistan, specifically in the war on terror more broadly.

And we're now at this moment when you're hearing this, I don't know what's going to be

having Afghanistan, but the day that I'm talking to you just a few hours ago, there was

a catastrophic series of suicide bombs outside the airport as of now we know of 11 or

12 US servicemembers who've been killed dozens of Afghans civilians who've been killed.

It's amidst this air lift trying to get people that work with the US and others out of Afghanistan

before total Taliban takeover.

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