The Two Matts Q&A: Is Nato dead and why was 2016 actually a great year to be alive?
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 18 January 2026
⏱️ 28 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
The Matts answer your questions, including what would happen if Nato collapsed, is there hope for Iran, how can we fix Britain’s sh*tty water companies, was 2016 a year to feel nostalgic about and did the Matts get it right with their comments about votes for the old? Enjoy!
OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Hello, this podcast is sponsored by the New World magazine. We've been irritating all the right people since we launched in 2016 after the catastrophe of Brexit. |
| 0:12.0 | Nigel Farage, Michelle Mone, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, they all loathe us. Half of them are threatened to sue us, which is why you will love us. |
| 0:21.6 | If you've been thinking about subscribing but haven't yet, this is the best offer you'll get this year guaranteed. |
| 0:27.6 | For just one pound, you'll get a full month of our journalism, including the magazine delivered to your door each week, daily access to the website and app, |
| 0:39.0 | and our 10-year archive of some of the best politics and cultural writing anywhere. |
| 0:45.7 | If you like this podcast, you'll love the new world. |
| 0:49.8 | And every penny of your subscription pays for the kind of quality, fact-based journalism that the farages of this world cannot stand. |
| 0:58.1 | If you don't think that's worth a quid, well, you should give your head a wobble. |
| 1:03.0 | So go now to thenewworld.co.com.uk forward slash two mats. |
| 1:10.2 | That's the number two, M-A-T-T-S. And claim this exclusive January offer today. Now, enjoy the rest of the podcast. Hello and happy Sunday |
| 1:34.1 | Hope you're all having a great weekend |
| 1:36.9 | Right, let's get straight into it |
| 1:39.3 | First question comes from Cyprian Morton |
| 1:42.7 | and Cyprian asks, what would happen if America left or was expelled from NATO? |
| 1:51.4 | What do you think, Matt? |
| 1:52.8 | It's a very good question, and obviously occasioned I assume by the massive problem of Greenland and Trump's insistence that he needs Greenland to become part of United States, |
| 2:04.2 | which obviously would present an existential challenge to NATO. |
| 2:08.6 | There is actually no, funny enough, there is no mechanism for expulsion, which is interesting because it shows you how it was just outside the parameters of what the founders of NATO were thinking, |
| 2:18.8 | the idea of having to expel a member. |
| 2:22.3 | There is a procedure for voluntary departure in Article 13, which I think is the more likely |
| 2:28.1 | contingency in this case. |
| 2:29.4 | I mean, the problem is that it is kind of game over without America because they account |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The New World, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of The New World and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.