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We are here in the company of Sol Klein, venture capitalist, co-founder of Phoenix Coat, and with a storied history of

building some quite extraordinary companies. And the reason we're talking to you, Sol, is you are

very optimistic about the future, which, I'm a professional optimist. But that makes you quite an unusual specimen.

Almost a unical.

Would to be a professional?

No, to be an optimist.

To be an optimist right now.

Okay.

So obviously, I mean, explain to people what it is you do.

So, you know, if I think about why I describe myself as a professional optimist, what we do

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