The Turtle Principle: Why Resistance Makes Fear & Anxiety Worse

Chasing Excellence

Ben Bergeron & Patrick Cummings

Self-improvement, Selfimprovement, Education, Wellness, Health & Fitness, Goalsetting, Health, Attainability, Fitness

4.8 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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0:00.0	We believe health is the foundation that unlocks freedom.
0:07.1	The freedom to live fully, to be an asset and not a burden, and to chase what truly matters.
0:13.4	Through daily practices and proven frameworks, we are here to help you build deep health,
0:19.2	find lasting peace, and live with your heart on fire.
0:24.2	Welcome to the chase.
0:26.5	Welcome back to the show. Thank you so very much for joining us. I am here, as always,
0:31.9	with Ben Bergeron. We are joined as well this time around by friend of the show, Chris Irwin.
0:36.7	How are you gentlemen doing?
0:38.7	Great. Yeah, doing great. Fantastic. For those folks who maybe knew or missed it, Chris, you're a
0:45.1	retired Navy SEAL. You're the Navy SEAL Foundation's communications director, and you are the
0:49.4	creator of Rare Sense, a project dedicated to the power of the mind and teaching others how to train
0:54.0	the mind, just like how to train the mind
0:54.5	just like we do our bodies. This is your third visit to the show. Thank you for joining us every single
1:00.9	time for folks who maybe miss them or just want to go back after this conversation. First time we had
1:05.4	you on was December 12th. We talked about a concept of yours called the mine killers. So we talked
1:10.5	about what they are as well as we talked about the first of yours called the mind killers. So we talked about what they are,
1:11.5	as well as we talked about the first of them, oblivion. And then the second time we had you on was
1:16.4	January 28th. And we talked about two more mind killers. We talked about storytelling and suppression.
1:21.3	And this time around, we're going to talk about the fourth of the mind killers. We're going to talk
1:24.7	about fear and their countermeasure or its countermeasure
1:28.0	openness. I'm excited to get into this. This is a big one. I would love, Chris, if we could
1:34.2	start with a reminder as to what the mind killers are. If you can give us the Cliff Notes version of
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