The Turtle Principle: Why Resistance Makes Fear & Anxiety Worse
Chasing Excellence
Ben Bergeron & Patrick Cummings
4.8 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 22 April 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
The 3 Big Questions We're Answering:
1. How can understanding and addressing our fears improve our mental health and overall well-being?
2. What practical strategies can we implement to counteract the mind killers, particularly fear, in our daily lives?
3. In what ways can cultivating openness and vulnerability enhance our resilience against anxiety and stress?
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| 0:00.0 | We believe health is the foundation that unlocks freedom. |
| 0:07.1 | The freedom to live fully, to be an asset and not a burden, and to chase what truly matters. |
| 0:13.4 | Through daily practices and proven frameworks, we are here to help you build deep health, |
| 0:19.2 | find lasting peace, and live with your heart on fire. |
| 0:24.2 | Welcome to the chase. |
| 0:26.5 | Welcome back to the show. Thank you so very much for joining us. I am here, as always, |
| 0:31.9 | with Ben Bergeron. We are joined as well this time around by friend of the show, Chris Irwin. |
| 0:36.7 | How are you gentlemen doing? |
| 0:38.7 | Great. Yeah, doing great. Fantastic. For those folks who maybe knew or missed it, Chris, you're a |
| 0:45.1 | retired Navy SEAL. You're the Navy SEAL Foundation's communications director, and you are the |
| 0:49.4 | creator of Rare Sense, a project dedicated to the power of the mind and teaching others how to train |
| 0:54.0 | the mind, just like how to train the mind |
| 0:54.5 | just like we do our bodies. This is your third visit to the show. Thank you for joining us every single |
| 1:00.9 | time for folks who maybe miss them or just want to go back after this conversation. First time we had |
| 1:05.4 | you on was December 12th. We talked about a concept of yours called the mine killers. So we talked |
| 1:10.5 | about what they are as well as we talked about the first of yours called the mind killers. So we talked about what they are, |
| 1:11.5 | as well as we talked about the first of them, oblivion. And then the second time we had you on was |
| 1:16.4 | January 28th. And we talked about two more mind killers. We talked about storytelling and suppression. |
| 1:21.3 | And this time around, we're going to talk about the fourth of the mind killers. We're going to talk |
| 1:24.7 | about fear and their countermeasure or its countermeasure |
| 1:28.0 | openness. I'm excited to get into this. This is a big one. I would love, Chris, if we could |
| 1:34.2 | start with a reminder as to what the mind killers are. If you can give us the Cliff Notes version of |
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