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Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast. Today we're going to talk about faith, but we also have to talk about something else that you've probably seen in the news.

And that is the Southern Poverty Law Center getting busted, spreading hate, which I know you're like, wait a minute, what?

How can this be? This group was supposed

to fight hate. Well, we have someone here with us today to talk because he was actually

labeled part of their hate group, right? They went after him. Jim Daly, he is the president and

CEO of Focus on the Family. It's a Christian organization. And Focus on the Family was on their

hate group list or they were on the watch. You were on the watch list, right, Jim? No, we made it to the

hate list. Oh, you actually got in right into the hate list. We were on the hate list years ago,

made it to the watch list, which was one or two steps down, and then we made it back

to the hate list.

I'm not sure why.

I think it's because we think of marriages between a man and a woman.

That really is our crime.

And that's what we talk about on our radio show, et cetera.

So I think merely putting that out there, what I would say is a traditional view of family,

that landed us on the hate list.

It's not surprising to me.

I will say to you, as we were talking before we started recording, when I was running for

office, I ended up on one of these lists somewhere as like a threat to democracy.

And then some of the other people that I was running alongside, they were added to different

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