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Hey everyone, it's Andrew Klaven. I have a new book coming out. It's called The Truth

and Beauty. This book is of immense importance to me. I hope you will read it and find it

to be important to you as well. The subtitle is How the Lives and Works of England's greatest

poets point the way to a deeper understanding of the words of Jesus. I wanted to talk about

the book with my son, Spencer Klaven, the host of the Young Heretics podcast because we've

been talking about these issues endlessly for years.

As long as I can remember, really, I mean, we've been on hikes and amused about the romantic

poets and from that to scotches and cigars and talking about this stuff, I know this

is something that you're so passionate about. I mean, it is your field of academic expertise

really. And you've distilled it into this great book. It's a rip-roaring good read, which

is people might not expect that out of a book about English poets and dandies. But as

we've discussed, you know, it's these big personalities in this crucial time. It's

a lot like ours. They're writing some of the best poetry in the world. I mean, Keats

is owed to Autumn alone, is worth the price of the book, and just understanding what that

poem is about. But here's my next question for you, which is what on earth does any of

this have to do with Jesus? This is a book about Jesus, right? I mean, ultimately, this

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