The Truth About Gender-Affirming Care with W. Kamau Bell, Nava Mau, and Dr. Susan Lacy

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🗓️ 3 December 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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You may recognize W. Kamau Bell from his three-time Emmy Award-winning docuseries United Shades of America, or from his Substack Who’s With Me, or from his commercials for the ACLU. If you're a long-time ACLU supporter, you'll know Bell has worked with us for more than a decade as our Artist Ambassador for Racial Justice. We're excited to have him as our interim host for our At Liberty podcast, where he will host conversations with leaders, legal experts, artists, and storytellers dedicated to the fight for civil rights and civil liberties. In this episode, Kamau discusses how gender-affirming health care can save lives with activist and Emmy-nominated actress Nava Mau and Dr. Susan Lacy, a board-certified gynecologist who has provided the care at her Memphis clinic for decades. They get into how the transgender community accesses this health care, why it’s vital to them, the misconceptions around it, and why — on the heels of a Supreme Court case that could threaten access — we all need to get involved. The case, U.S. v. Skrmetti, centers on when, where, and how the government can discriminate against transgender people and the health care they receive. Mau and Dr. Lacy, a plaintiff in the case representing herself and her patients, address what’s at stake and what practical next steps we can take to help protect transgender rights from an avalanche of legal and legislative battles.

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0:00.0	Hey everybody, it's me, W. Kamau Bell, stand-up comic, TV host, filmmaker, dad, pretty good husband,
0:08.4	and interim director of the ACLU's podcast at Liberty.
0:13.8	I went to the Oprah School of Talking.
0:18.6	Today we're speaking with Emmy-nominated actress, author, trans advocate, Navamau,
0:24.3	and board-certified gynecologist Dr. Susan Lacey.
0:28.0	What you might ask could bring the three of us together?
0:30.7	Well, on December 4th, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear a case about when, where, and how
0:35.9	the government can discriminate against transgender people.
0:39.3	The case comes down to a 23 Tennessee law that bans medical treatments like puberty blockers
0:45.0	and hormones for trans youth. In other words, if you're not transgender, you already have access to these
0:50.8	medications. But if you are trans, you do not. The ACLU and the Justice Department
0:56.1	will argue that the ban is unconstitutional under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment,
1:01.7	which says the government cannot discriminate on the basis of sex. And the Tennessee ban isn't
1:08.9	an isolated attack. It's part of a larger effort to silence, marginalize, and erase transgender lives.
1:14.6	The 2024 legislative session was the fifth consecutive record-breaking year for total anti-trans bills,
1:21.6	and Tennessee's health care ban is one of 24 just like it passed in 2021.
1:26.6	Surveys tell us that most people don't even know a transgender person, let alone have
1:30.9	familiarity with their health care.
1:32.8	Just like with abortion, birth control, or even vaccines, the lies about gender-affirming
1:37.4	medical care are spreading far and wide.
1:39.8	Dr. Susan Lacey has practiced medicine for almost 30 years.
1:43.2	In the upcoming Supreme Court case,
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