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We Have A Plan: Cecillia Wang and W. Kamau Bell

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4.8585 Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

You may recognize W. Kamau Bell from his multi-Emmy award-winning docuseries United Shades of America, or from his Substack Who’s With Me, or from his commercials for the ACLU. If you're a long-time ACLU supporter, you'll know Bell has worked with us for more than a decade as our artist ambassador for racial justice. We're excited to have him as our interim host for our At Liberty podcast, where he will host conversations with leaders, legal experts, artists, and storytellers dedicated to the fight for civil rights and civil liberties. In this episode, the ACLU’s newly-appointed National Legal Director Cecillia Wang joins Bell in a special post-election episode. Cecillia oversees more than 200 lawyers and staff in the ACLU National legal department, supports legal staff at 54 affiliates, and directs the ACLU’s work at the Supreme Court. Before her current role, Cecillia was the deputy legal director for the ACLU, where she helped fight the 2017 Muslim Ban, the border wall, the family separation policy, and the 2020 Census citizenship question. Together, they talk about what was learned from the first Trump administration, and how the ACLU will be ready to respond on day one. https://www.aclu.org/our-47th-president-donald-trump

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, it's me, W. Come Out Bell. You know me. Right now, I'm the new interim host of the A So You's

0:07.3

Podcast at Liberty, but today I'm coming to you as a fellow American who is going through the American

0:13.5

experience. Who, America's really Americaning, everybody.

0:26.0

It's been over 24 hours since the news of Trump's victory.

0:31.5

Yeah, so we all know that means we need to pay attention.

0:36.9

I know if we're certain that come January after the inauguration, we need to pay attention to what's going on, what's

0:38.3

coming out of that administration. Our rights and liberties will be put on notice, and we're all

0:43.1

going to need a plan. And we don't want to wait until the inauguration day to come with that plan,

0:48.6

so that's what we're here to talk about today. The best part about being associated with the ACLU

0:53.3

other than having good lawyers in my

0:55.4

Rolodex. I'm old. I still say Rolodex. Is that I can have conversations with people at moments like

1:00.9

this when we're all sort of trying to figure out what happens next. So today is a great day. I'm speaking

1:07.1

with Cecilia Wong, the ACLU's national legal director and one of the people at the epicenter of ground control.

1:13.8

She oversees more than 200 lawyers and staff in the National Legal Department, supports legal staff at all 54 affiliates, and directs the ACLU's work in the Supreme Court.

1:23.6

You know, just light work, as we call it, light work.

1:27.4

What's more, she knows how to fight the Trump administration's attacks on democracy. You know, just light work, as we call it. Lightwork.

1:31.5

What's more, she knows how to fight the Trump administration's attacks on democracy because she's done it before.

1:34.1

She ain't new to this.

1:35.2

She's true to this, as you say if you were saying things that were popular to say five years ago.

1:39.6

As the deputy legal director, she's helped the fight against the 2017 Muslim ban.

1:43.8

We'll talk about that. The border wall, the family separation policy, she's helped the fight against the 2017 Muslim ban. We'll talk about that.

1:45.0

The border wall, the family separation policy, and the citizenship question on the 2020 census.

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