Man there's been way more many moments like that in my life where I've worked towards something and didn't achieve it and you know the one big accomplishment perhaps like the Miss Universe title that was a big dream that I followed but before that there were so many dreams. this we touch on those too because I think that's more of the real life story than the one big

accomplishment in our life.

You're listening to She, with Jordan Lee Dooley, a personal development

podcast for the everyday woman. Come invited, leave ignited. Here's your host,

Jordan Lee Dooley. Hi Jenny, welcome to She.

Jordan, thank you for having me.

This is so exciting.

It's so much fun.

I have just really looked forward to this conversation.

I think it will bless so many.

But for those who may not know you or know a lot about your story, can you just give us a brief overview of your background and what led you to write your book a crowd that lasts?

Yeah, I'm you'll hear a little bit of a mess up accent, but I'm just going with it at this point.

Sometimes I say plant and plant in one sentence and that's just the way it is right now.

Okay, so I'm from South Africa which me grew up in such a tiny, teeny little town.

And now Jacksonville, Florida is home for me.

Also my husband and I got married, I moved here and my new book, crown that lasts or lost depending on where you're from

was really inspired by a crown that I chased and that I eventually had to give back that didn't lost and it really left me

inspiring into a season of just searching for my identity and searching for my worth and my value and you know perhaps people listening might

not be able to relate to the physical crown that I chased a Miss Universe crown but

maybe they can relate to a season in their life where they rooted their worth and

value in something that was temporary and that essentially didn't last and that came to

an end. Yeah I think we can all relate to that in one way or another. We're so quick to put our identity in other people's

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