Where do you think people are like, this is what they believe about transformation, and you're just watching it going, oh gosh.

The flaw oftentimes is in the vision itself.

I'm with this partner and they don't stimulate me anymore.

I'm in this apartment and it doesn't stimulate me anymore.

The flaw is people think I need to blow up my life.

Instead of having to leave your

situation to go find the change, what if you were to introduce change where you are?

Light, welcome to the podcast.

Thank you, Lori.

It's good to be here.

I know.

It's so fun to have you in person. I got to be on your podcast. Yes. But it was virtual. It was virtual. Which is also great. Where were you when we did that? I have no idea. Is it like in a co-working space or something like that? Oh, probably. Yeah. that's when we had our house down there and I didn't have a studio yet. Yeah.

And I thought the best option was a co-working space, but really it wasn't. It seems like a great idea. You're like, get out of the house. It's different from what I'm seeing right here. Yes, exactly. It would probably have some random people walking by getting some coffee. I don't know. No, this is much better.

I'm loving it.

You know, you do a podcast.

So it's kind of like figuring out your spaces. walking by getting some coffee. I don't know. No, this is this is much better. I'm loving it.

You know, you do a podcast. So it's kind of like figuring out your spaces. Yeah, but you know, doing in person is a whole other thing, right? So totally. I haven't had that experience yet. I've done a few of those in Mexico City, but Mexico City is not exactly on the podcast circuit. No, I know. This, in Newport Beach right now as we're recording. And I wasn't sure if I would be able to get people to come down here from L.A., but it's been working out pretty well so far. It's not that bad. It was like an hour. It depends when they're coming. Yeah. I will say like, you were right on time. Most people, I got here a little early. They factor it a little late.

So we build a buffer in because I'm like 30 minutes late, but I knew you were going to be because you're coming from L.A. So, but I'm grateful that you're here. Yeah, thank you. And there's, I mean, there is so much to talk with you about because you've lived such an interesting life. Thank you. You've written five books.

You were an absolute nomad whose home was their backpack.

Yeah. lived such an interesting life. Thank you. You've written five books. You were an absolute nomad whose home was their backpack.

Yep.

That which we just talked about. I was homeless for five years.

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