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The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

The Teflon Bomb

The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

Sam Kean

History, Arts, Science, Books

4.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2020

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

How did the nonstick frying pan in your kitchen make the first atomic bomb possible? A story about the innocent-seeming Teflon for this week’s 75th anniversary of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombs... For more on Sam's New York Times-bestselling books, see http://samkean.com Help keep this podcast going by becoming a patron for as little as $2 a month, at https://www.patreon.com/disappearingspoon See bonus material and hear bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/disappearingspoon Follow Sam on Twitter at https://twitter.com/sam_kean ... on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/SamKeanBooks ... or on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/historyschmistory/ Above all, thanks for listening! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Have you ever looked at your refrigerator and thought I wonder whether it's going to kill me?

0:06.0

Probably not, but for a lot of people in the early 1900s, refrigerators were in fact a deadly menace.

0:14.4

You see, refrigerators back then often used toxic gases as coolings,

0:19.2

including ammonia and sulfur dioxide. These gases worked well to keep food cold, but given the

0:27.3

primitive state of manufacturing them, the seals on refrigerator pumps often

0:32.4

broke.

0:33.3

These toxic gases within leak out and flood people's homes.

0:41.8

Every year dozens of poor families would go to bed

0:47.2

happy and healthy, only to be found suffocated and dead in the morning.

0:54.0

So to protect against toxic fridge gases,

0:57.1

scientists in the United States

0:58.7

began developing new non-toxic coolants. But this pursuit of non-toxic coolants let us down some

1:06.2

unexpected paths. In particular, it led to the discovery of Teflon, the famous

1:12.4

non-stick coating on frying pans, which is all pretty neat, a

1:17.2

gee whiz story of scientific serendipity, except for one thing.

1:24.0

After its discovery, Teflon was not initially used in frying pans.

1:29.0

In fact, it probably never would have appeared in your kitchen

1:32.0

had not found a much more sinister use.

1:37.0

That's because Teflon was a key ingredient in the making of the first atomic bombs. Hi, I'm Sam Keene, and you're listening to the disappearing spoon, a topsy-turvy

2:00.0

sciencey history podcast, where footnotes become the real story.

2:19.8

The story of Teflon and Atomic Bomb starts in 1938 with Roy Plunkett, a young chemist in New Jersey working for the DuPont Company.

2:23.0

By that point, toxic fridge gases were starting to be replaced with new coolants,

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