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The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

The Man Who Couldn’t Read Numbers

The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

Sam Kean

History, Arts, Science, Books

4.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2020

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

An Oliver-Sacks-like tale of a man with brain damage who can’t read numbers—even though he can still read words just fine! His amazing case could also shed light on the mysteries of human consciousness... For more on Sam's New York Times-bestselling books, see http://samkean.com Help keep this podcast going by becoming a patron for as little as $2 a month, at https://www.patreon.com/disappearingspoon See bonus material and hear bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/disappearingspoon Follow Sam on Twitter at https://twitter.com/sam_kean ... on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/SamKeanBooks ... or on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/historyschmistory/ Above all, thanks for listening! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

In the video the man sounds creeped out. He's a patient with brain damage and you can't see his face in the video, just his hands.

0:10.0

They're thick hands with a chain around one wrist and a wedding band on one finger.

0:16.0

But in his hands he's holding a number, a green foam 8.

0:22.0

It's about 8 inches tall, like something you might see a preschool or playing

0:26.0

with. In the video the man is holding the green foam 8 upright at first, but

0:32.3

there's something wrong. He can feel the curves of the

0:35.6

eight with his fingers, but when he looks at it it looks like an incoherent

0:40.7

jumble of lines to him. The audio quality is poor but you can hear his reaction here.

0:47.6

I don't see the shape. I don't see the shape that I'm feeling. But when the man rotates the number by 90 degrees, something happens.

1:00.0

The shape suddenly snaps into focus for him. The eight now looks like a green mask with two eye holes. Here's his reaction.

1:10.0

I know folks this is too strange for words. I know folks this is too strange for words.

1:17.0

Now the man begins rotating the number back and forth, back and forth.

1:24.1

And each time it changes orientation,

1:26.3

he watches it melt and cohere, melt and cohere,

1:30.0

over and over.

1:31.4

It's so creepy to him that he finally hands the eight

1:34.2

to a nearby scientist.

1:36.6

You gotta take that away.

1:39.6

You gotta take that away.

1:41.8

He doesn't even want it in his sight anymore.

1:44.4

For privacy sake, this man is known only by his initials as RFS.

1:50.7

And RFS is the subject of a fascinating new case study that would have done Oliver

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