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CONFLICTED

The Syrian Civil War Pt.2 – The Kurds Rise Up

CONFLICTED

Message Heard

Religion & Spirituality, History

4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

This week on Conflicted, we begin in earnest our retrospective on the Syrian Civil War, where we will be inviting actual Syrians from a multitude of different perspectives, to tell us about their experiences of the war.  After setting the scene with our old friend Wassim Nasr last time, over our upcoming episodes, we’ll be creating a kind of narrative history for you, our listeners, as we make sense of this most complex of conflicts from as many angles as we can. In this episode, Thomas invites on Syrian Kurd Ronnie Hamada to delve into the complexities of the Syrian Civil War, focusing on the Kurdish experience and setting the scene with their historical identity.  Ronnie has been working in data and analysis of conflicts in Syria and the wider Middle East for the past 10 years, working alongside journalists and NGOs to map conflicts and combat misinformation, and his story of life under siege in Aleppo and Afrin is an extraordinary one… They explore the historical context of Kurdish nationalism, the impact of Arab nationalism, and the political dynamics within Kurdish communities in Syria. Ronnie shares his personal story and insights, highlighting the challenges faced by Kurds, including statelessness and cultural repression and the intricate dynamics of Kurdish identity and politics in Syria, particularly in the context of the Arab Spring. New Conflicted Season 5 episodes will be coming every two weeks, but if you want to have your Conflicted fix every single week, then you’ll have to join our Conflicted Community. Subscribers will get bonus episodes every other week, and can also join our Conflicted Community chatroom, where you can interact with fellow dearest listeners, discuss episodes past and future, get exclusive messages from Thomas and Aimen, ask future Q&A questions and so much more. All the information you need to sign up to the Conflicted Community is on this link: https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/  Conflicted is proudly made by Message Heard, a full-stack podcast production agency which uses its extensive expertise to make its own shows such as Conflicted, shows for commissioners such as the BBC, Spotify and Al Jazeera, and powerfully effective podcasts for other companies too. If you’d like to find out how we can help get your organisation’s message heard, visit messageheard.com or drop an email to [email protected]! Find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MHconflicted And Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:02.2

Hello, dear listeners.

1:07.7

Welcome back to Conflicted and to our continuing series on the Syrian Civil War,

1:10.5

where we're beginning a bit of a retrospective.

1:15.9

Now, keen listeners will remember that last season we invited a friend of the show onto the podcast, Barat Sheban, who gave us his account of the conflict in Yemen, from his experiences

1:22.0

as a political activist during and after the Arab Spring, to the descent of his nation

1:27.0

into devastating civil war,

1:29.2

foreign intervention, humanitarian disaster, and so on. Well, now we're going to be doing something

1:35.1

similar, but perhaps a little more ambitious, given how nebulous the conflict in Syria looks

1:40.8

from the outside. So after setting the scene with our old friend

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