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CONFLICTED

Conflicted Community: Dalia Ziada – Liberal Activism in Egypt, from the Arab Spring to October 7th

CONFLICTED

Message Heard

Religion & Spirituality, History

4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

This week for our Conflicted Community members, we have an interview with the Egyptian political activist Dalia Ziada, whose incredible personal story crosses so many of the major events in the modern middle east, from the Arab Spring, to October 7th. Dalia is an award-winning Egyptian writer and political analyst whose work focuses on governance, geopolitics, and defense policy. In Egypt, she co-founded the Liberal Democracy Institute in 2015, she is the Executive Director of the Center for Middle East and Eastern Mediterranean Studies and also serves as a board member of the Foreign Affairs Committee of Egypt's National Council for Women. She’s a frequent media commentator, advocating for women’s rights and against female genital mutilation in the Muslim World, and she is the author of multiple books, including “The Curious Case of the Three-Legged Wolf - Egypt: Military, Islamism, and Liberal Democracy”, on the Arab Spring and its fallout in Egypt. In a wide ranging conversation, Thomas and Dalia discuss her story of liberal activism in Egypt, teaching herself out of antisemitism, the Arab Spring, October 7th, and more… To listen to the full episode, you’ll need to subscribe to the Conflicted Community. And don’t forget, subscribers can also join our Conflicted Community chatroom, where you can interact with fellow dearest listeners, discuss episodes past and future, get exclusive messages from Thomas and Aimen, ask future Q&A questions and so much more. All the information you need to sign up is on this link: https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/  Conflicted is proudly made by Message Heard, a full-stack podcast production agency which uses its extensive expertise to make its own shows such as Conflicted, shows for commissioners such as the BBC, Spotify and Al Jazeera, and powerfully effective podcasts for other companies too. If you’d like to find out how we can help get your organisation’s message heard, visit messageheard.com or drop an email to [email protected]! Find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MHconflicted And Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome back to another conflicted community episode. Thomas Small here with

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another interview for our dearest listeners

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in the community. Now, this week, I am really excited to bring you an interview with someone

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whose personal story crisscrosses many major events in recent Middle Eastern history. From the

0:50.4

Arab Spring in Egypt to the October 7th massacres in Israel, our guest today has seen

0:55.8

her life affected, upturned even, by all these recent geopolitical upheavals.

1:01.5

She is an award-winning Egyptian writer and political analyst whose work focuses on the things

1:07.5

we love to talk about on conflicted, governance, geopolitics, and defense policy.

1:13.4

In Egypt, she co-founded the Liberal Democracy Institute in 2015, is the executive director of the

1:20.5

Center for Middle East and Eastern Mediterranean Studies, and serves as a board member of the

1:25.8

Foreign Affairs Committee of Egypt's National Council for Women.

1:30.0

And beyond that, you may well have seen her across the media advocating for women's rights

1:35.0

and against female genital mutilation in the Muslim world.

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Or you may even have read her brilliant 2019 book on the Arab Spring and its fallout in Egypt, the curious

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case of the three-legged wolf.

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Conflicted community, please welcome Dalia Ziaada onto the show.

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Hello, Dahlia.

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