Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode here,

we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

be moaning the current cost of two-inch tape for your analog recording setup,

or else a scrappy upstart, bemoaning the monthly subscription fee for Suno.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most,

an iron-clad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everyone, it's the second Friday of October 2025, and I thank you for joining us.

This week's show is brought to you by Banzugal.

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