The Sweetness Spectrum – Tasting coffee is complex

Cat & Cloud Podcast

Cat & Cloud

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4.8 • 727 Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

This episode’s more like a stream of consciousness as we go through all the open tabs in our brain than a polished takeaway. We talk about experimenting with roast curves, the balance between juicy acidity and sweetness, and the challenge of making something expressive yet approachable. We touch on espresso ratios, brewing methods, and how taste perception can be wildly different depending on so many variables. We round out the conversation by getting into the Best Friends Club — our hope to expand it beyond our walls without being the gatekeepers. It’s an exciting open tab for us, and we’re dreaming big. Casual Friday energy all the way. We’re tired, inspired, and figuring it out in real time. 🔖 Chapters – 01:16 Visiting mahlköenig in Seattle 04:30 Coffee development 10:45 Coffee for you 21:35 Current events at Cat & Cloud 28:26 The Best Friends Club expansion with Honduras 🔗 Links – Cat & Cloud: Instagram www.instagram.com/catcloudcoffee/ Webstore www.catandcloud.com/ Chris Baca’s Personal Blog: www.chrisbaca.com/ We are Cat & Cloud Coffee. Started by three friends trying to pursue their passions with the mission to inspire connection by creating memorable experiences, and we created this podcast to continue forming those connections inside and out of our cafes. The Cat & Cloud podcast was created as a space for us to share our experiences in the coffee industry and starting a business. Each week we sit down to talk about new challenges as business owners, how we utilize our mission and values to make decisions, and answer questions from our listening community. If you’re looking to expand your coffee knowledge, get some advice for your own small business, or just like the vibes, give us a listen! Enjoy!

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0:00.0	Okay.
0:03.4	Got a special guest today.
0:05.5	Jared, you've heard him here before, but this week, we're dealing with a whole different animal.
0:11.3	We can't do it, dude.
0:12.6	Jared's got multiple personalities.
0:15.0	It's not a disorder.
0:16.0	He just has multiple personalities.
0:17.6	Oh, yeah, yeah.
0:17.9	No, this is like if you had an, yeah, if you could act.
0:20.4	There's the family man, right?
0:22.0	We all know the family man. Absolutely. There's actor slash model. There's the actor slash model. There's the barista. And then there's a musician. And then there's, here we go, dude. I can't tell you when the album drops. I can't tell you who's producing it. The positive vibes are through this.
0:18.0	Anyway, welcome to the Catin Cloud Coffee podcast.
0:21.6	Highly productive week this week. Jeez, Louise, yeah, it is. And it was. And I'm tired. I'm like slouching in my chair, waiting for my car to come back for any oil change. It drives itself. It's going to drive itself back. I hope so, man, because I don't want to drive at home. It's a Tesla that he put a motor swap in,
0:54.5	so it's still got self-driving, but he has to change the oil and do smog. And I can't drive.
1:00.3	It's diesel. I don't know how to drive. I never learned. It has been a highly productive week.
1:06.9	Very great brain stuff. I feel like we got into our lanes.
1:11.2	I feel like not. There's like a lot of good stuff. So it's Friday. You're going to leave to go up
1:16.0	to Seattle to talk with Malcunig. We're going to Seattle. Learn about grinders. Mark and
1:22.1	Weiser and I to talk to the crew at Malconig at their offices up there,
1:28.7	part of the Hemro group.
1:30.7	Oh, the Hemeroid group?
1:32.4	What did you just say?
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