Women who were in middle life, they felt it helped with their hot flushes or that they didn't suffer as many hot flushes as others who weren't using the sauna.

And that's one of the things that ties into what I found with my studies of saunas.

Most of the literature has been suggesting that it is the cardiovascular benefits that we get.

And they're pretty dramatic cardiovascular benefits.

So sweating, I believe, is going to be unlocked, almost like sleeping as a key marker of good help.

Dr. Joy Hussain focuses her clinics around the benefits of sauna

bathing could getting a bit of a sweat on be the secret to great health in midlife. This is the

Lizelle well-being show, the podcast, helping us all have a better second half. I'm Liz Earle, and yeah, my mission is to find ways for all of us to thrive in our later

life by investing in our health and our well-being right now, today.

And all this month, we are looking at ways to rest, recharge and build resilience

that helps see us through our better second halves.

And one way of building that physical and indeed mental resilience that we're hearing a lot about

is the heat in the sauna and also the light that's used in infrared saunas,

which heat the body in a different way. And I'm especially interested in this

all, actually, for its anti-inflammatory effect on the body and the way that it helps with

aging. Well, Joy Hussein is the director of Health with Joy, an integrative medicine clinic,

promoting wellness, wearables, and sauna therapies. She's also completed a number

of doctoral studies and I was fascinated to learn from her work that sauna use has been demonstrated

to have similar whole body effects as engaging in moderate intensity exercise. So that's some brisk treadmill walking or riding a stationary bike,

but without having to exert yourself and breathe so fast.

So how might sauna, heat, light and sweat

unlock some real health benefits for us,

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