The Supreme Court has rejected the government's Rwanda plan
James O'Brien - The Whole Show
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🗓️ 15 November 2023
⏱️ 141 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Three minutes after ten is the time. |
| 0:02.1 | Supreme Court currently ruling on that Rwanda policy. |
| 0:05.1 | And do you know, it is, I was going to come on air in the slightly cocky mode this morning |
| 0:11.0 | and congratulate myself for having given you the facts that you need. |
| 0:14.2 | But in the opening comments from the head of the Supreme Court, |
| 0:18.4 | I've had some of my own ignorance highlighted because I thought, |
| 0:24.4 | and this, listen, I think this is significant. I know it's a little bit self-referential, |
| 0:29.0 | for which I apologize, but I thought that the applications were going to be processed |
| 0:35.1 | according to the British system, even though they'd then stay in Rwanda. |
| 0:39.4 | I don't know why I thought that. |
| 0:40.7 | At least I'm not as daft as Ian Duncan Smith, |
| 0:42.5 | who thought that if the application was successful, |
| 0:44.6 | you'd then come back to the UK as a refugee. |
| 0:47.6 | In fact, quite a lot of people persisted in that belief. |
| 0:50.6 | In fact, you might still hold that belief now. |
| 0:53.5 | So, if they are deported to |
| 0:59.5 | Rwanda and their application for asylum is processed and they are found to be bona fide refugees, |
| 1:04.9 | genuine fleas of torture and misery and worse, they stay in Rwanda. I suspect that there are still |
| 1:14.6 | a significant number of people listening to this who don't understand that. And I was going to be |
| 1:18.6 | a bit smug about it until I listened to those opening comments. Because they don't. The application is |
| 1:26.2 | according to Rwandan asylum applications or Rwandan |
| 1:30.0 | asylum law. Guess how many asylum decisions Rwanda took in 2021? Just have a guess. Go on. Say a number |
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