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The Next Big Idea

The Superpower You Didn’t Know You Had

The Next Big Idea

Next Big Idea Club

Education, Social Sciences, Science, Society & Culture

4.41.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

You know that feeling when you meet someone and something just … clicks? Scientists have a name for it. They call it “interpersonal synchrony.” Turns out we subconsciously mimic other people’s movements, postures, facial expressions, and gestures. We even sync involuntary functions like heart rate, blood pressure, brain waves, pupil dilation, and hormonal activity. Kate Murphy, author of the forthcoming book Why We Click, says interpersonal synchrony — syncing for short — is our superpower. But there’s a catch. The same instinct that bonds us can also hijack us. Sponsored By: Shopify - Start your $1/month trial at ⁠shopify.com/nbi⁠ The Next Big Idea Club - Join a stimulating community for a year of learning and growth at ⁠nextbigideaclub.com⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, check out our conversations with Charles Duhigg, David Brooks, and John Colapinto. Want to connect? 🔗 Follow Rufus on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ 📖 Subscribe to our daily newsletter, ⁠Book of the Day⁠ ✉️ Send us an email: ⁠podcast@nextbigideaclub.com⁠ 🎥 Watch video episodes on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@NextBigIdeaClub

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0:00.0

I'm Rufus Griscombe, and I'm Caleb Bissinger, and this is the next big idea. Today, the emerging science of why we click. Like. You know that feeling when you're totally in sync with someone.

0:34.1

Maybe you finish each other's sentences.

0:36.0

Yeah, you're picking up what they're putting down.

0:38.3

Scientists have a name for that feeling.

0:40.3

They call it interpersonal synchrony.

0:43.3

Turns out we subconsciously mimic other people's movements,

0:46.3

postures, facial expressions, and gestures.

0:49.3

We even sink involuntary functions like heart rate, blood pressure, brain waves, pupil dilation, and hormonal

0:57.0

activity. And why do we do that? We do that because when we embody and internalize one another,

1:04.1

we're able to get a read on their thoughts and their feelings. That's journalist Kate Murphy,

1:09.9

author of the forthcoming book Why We Click.

1:12.6

And she tells our colleague, Ponyo Giannopoulos, in today's episode, that interpersonal

1:16.6

synchrony, sinking, for short, is our superpower. It's really the root of empathy. It's how we

1:23.2

connect. But there's a catch. The same instinct that helps you click with a new friend

1:28.3

can also pull you into someone else's anxiety, their anger, their panic.

1:33.3

Sometimes they're sucking you into places you really don't want to go.

1:37.3

That's all coming up after the break.

1:51.0

Today's episode of the next big idea is sponsored by Shopify.

1:54.8

Shopify gives you everything you need to sell online and in-person.

2:02.7

Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at Shopify.com slash NBI.

2:12.9

Kate, welcome to the next big idea.

2:14.4

Thanks for having me.

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