The Subtext: Celebrities Should Stay in Their Lane

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 555 Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Should celebrities “stay in their lane” when it comes to political or moral matters? Who gets to speak in public, and why do we only object when it makes us uncomfortable? When Mark Ruffalo spoke out at the Golden Globes about American politics, some applauded his honesty while others told him to “stay in his lane.” In this episode, Savannah and Lee unpack why celebrity activism is celebrated by some and condemned by others, exposing the double standards around fame, faith, politics, and who we think is allowed to speak in public. Things we mentioned in this episode: ⁠Down There by the Train⁠ by Tom Waits ⁠Come On Up To The House⁠ by Tom Waits ⁠Tehran⁠ on Apple TV ⁠Come and Welcome to Jesus Christ by John Bunyan⁠ ⁠The One On The Right Is On The Left Live at the Ryman Auditorium⁠ by Johnny Cash Follow The Subtext: ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Threads⁠ | ⁠X⁠ | ⁠YouTube⁠ | ⁠TikTok⁠ Follow Lee: ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Twitter⁠ | ⁠Lee's Newsletter⁠ Follow Savannah: ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Substack⁠ Join our Email List: ⁠nosmallendeavor.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome, Savannah. Welcome to our show, Lee Camp. Welcome to our show. It's so good to see you. It's so good to see you, too.
0:07.9	How's the prep for the half marathon coming? I did seven miles on Saturday. Everything is going great except for blisters.
0:20.5	I'm getting blisters on the inside of my feet, so I had to go get my feet scanned on Sunday by the shoe company.
0:29.1	Yes.
0:29.5	That will tell you basically what your problems are.
0:31.6	I see.
0:31.9	And it turns out that I have been wearing a half-sized too small.
0:35.1	Oh, well, there you go.
0:36.5	Crushing.
0:37.4	Well, I mean, it's great that you're learning that now rather than in the middle of a half-sized two small. Oh, well, there you go. Cushing. Well, I mean, it's great that you're
0:39.0	learning that now rather than in the middle of a half marathon. So true. So true. I guess this is what
0:46.1	you do training for so that you can be prepared. And on Saturday, like, they started bleeding towards
0:51.3	the end. And I was like, I probably need to deal with this before it gets really bad.
0:56.6	Yeah.
0:57.6	It was a very vulnerable thing.
1:01.3	Sophie, one of our producers was talking about how she wouldn't do this foot scan because it's so vulnerable.
1:06.2	It is vulnerable to take out your blistery feet. Yeah. And be like, fix this.
1:13.1	But shout out to Anya.
1:14.3	She was amazing.
1:15.1	And she helped my feet.
1:16.0	Yeah.
1:16.4	Go on you.
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