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Happy birthday to The Spectator. This week, we're celebrating our 190th birthday. Soon, I'll be talking to a former editor, Dominic Lawson, and our current editor, Fraser Nelson,

and we'll be looking back over the spectator's long life. But before that, it's the podcast as usual.

This week, we're asking, do anti-Trump protests achieve anything more than virtue signalling?

And are driverless cars on the road to nowhere. Donald Trump will be visiting

the UK next week and after two false starts it seems as if finally he's actually going to be coming.

Next Friday, Trump will be welcomed by Theresa May as well as major protests. There's a carnival of

resistance being organised with special guests such as Lily Allen and a giant

inflatable blimp of Trump wearing a nappy. But as Freddie Gray, our deputy editor, asked in this

week's magazine, is there actually anything productive from all this virtue signaling?

Freddie joins me now along with Shola Moschog Bamimu, a lawyer and activist and the co-founder

of the Women's March Against Trump.

So, Freddie, in your piece, you look at the Stop Trump campaign and at some of the events being

planned for Donald Trump's arrival. What's on the schedule?

Well, I think it's going to be a carnival of resistance, according to the Stop Trump UK website.

I think there's going to be a hell of a lot of different marches going on,

a hell of a lot of different protests going on,

actually throughout the country,

but they're going to congregate in London on Friday the 13th, ominously.

And I think it's going to be a sort of jamboree of anti-Trumpism.

And while I'm all for people expressing themselves

and making their voices heard, I think the whole thing is very silly and actually quite pointless.

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