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Revolution! Is the Brexit drama just beginning?

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πŸ—“οΈ 11 July 2018

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Is Brexit just going in circles? With the resignations of David Davis and Boris Johnson, the only progress the negotiations seem to be making is – backwards (00:35). We also ask – are pit bulls really murderous dogs from hell (18:55)? And last, what does it mean to be English (29:50)?

With James Forsyth, Paul Goodman, John Springford, Julia Lewis, Mary Wakefield, Harry Mount, and Yasmin Alibhai-Brown.

Presented by Lara Prendergast.

Produced by Cindy Yu.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This podcast is sponsored by Seller Plan from Berry Brothers and Rudd, collecting fine wines for future drinking.

0:11.4

Hello and welcome to The Spectator Podcast. I'm Lara Prendergars.

0:16.8

With the resignations of David Davis and Boris Johnson, the only progress the negotiations seems to be making is somewhat backwards.

0:25.1

So, is Brexit just going in circles?

0:28.0

We also ask, are pit bulls really the murderous dogs from hell that they're portrayed as being?

0:33.4

And finally, we ask, what does it mean to be English?

0:36.4

So, Brexit, what's going on? In the last few days,

0:39.9

the Prime Minister has not only lost her Brexit Secretary, but also the Foreign Secretary,

0:44.7

a Brexit Minister and two Tory Party Vice-Chairs. All have quit on the grounds that her

0:49.8

chequers deal is too soft. May seems to have stabilised the government for now, but what next for the

0:55.8

Prime Minister? In this week's cover, James Forsyth, our political editor, writes that a no-deal Brexit,

1:02.3

or calling off the whole thing altogether, are now both distinct possibilities. James joins me now,

1:08.1

together with Paul Goodman, the former Conservative MP and editor of Conservative Home, and John Springford, deputy director at the Centre for European Reforms.

1:17.4

So James, can you start, first of all, by outlining what's been going on in the past few days?

1:21.9

Well, I think the most significant thing that has happened since Chequers is it has become apparent that Theresa May doesn't have the votes

1:28.8

in the Commons to pass her Brexit deal, even if the EU agreed to it with only very minor

1:35.0

alterations, which is in and of itself unlikely. Because what the resonations of Boris Johnson

1:40.5

and David Davis shows is that this isn't going to just be Jacob Rees Morgan, a dozen Eurosceptic ultras voting against this deal. But this rebellion goes far deeper into

1:48.8

a Conservative Party. I mean, you saw that yesterday when Ben Bradley and Maria Caulfield,

1:53.4

who are two people who no one would have had down as kind of hard, ultra-hardcore Brexiteers,

1:57.8

resigned as party vice chairman to oppose the deal. And one cabinet minister and this

2:03.1

person voted remaining in the referendum. So this isn't hope being the farther of the fort said to me,

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