It is truly not the person with the most talent that moves forward. It's not the person that is

necessarily the smartest. It is the person who just says yes, does it, walks forward, and

stays committed to it.

Welcome back, Renner Health our health and wellness series, and I basically have the co-host of the podcast on the show today.

Lisa Whittle, she's been on more than anyone else. I love having her on. We always have something fun to talk about.

And today we're talking about what she calls whole body theology. She has a new

Bible study out called Body and Soul. Lisa and I've spent so much time behind the scenes talking about

these things. I'm excited to bring them to you today. We're talking about what tools the enemy

uses against us in terms of our body image, what we need to do to be able to have a healthier body image,

and what the Lord wants us to know about our bodies. And of course, we have a special challenge

to everyone at the end of the show that you're not going to want to miss out on. But first I want to

tell you, okay, let's dive in with the wonderful Lisa Whittle. Lisa Whittle, the woman that has been on this show, more than anybody else, welcome to your second podcast home. How does it feel? To feel comfortable? Is the couch comfy? Is this true? Am I still the most frequent guest on this show? You're the podcast star. Wow. You could be the co-host at this point. If I ever get dethroned, I'm going to be sad. It will be a sad day. It would be very sad and people will have a lot of questions for us. I'll tell you that. Okay, we're talking about bodies. We're in a health and wellness series. Yeah, I wanted to have you on so we could talk about bodies because we get a lot wrong about our bodies. Like we,

we want to take care of them. We want to love them because we want to actually feel good in our

bodies, right? We don't want, we don't want to feel bad. But why do you think so many women feel

at war with their bodies? Well, I think there's a lot of reasons. I think, number one, we have not been

taught properly. I think the subject has been virtually ignored, especially in the church.

I think we have our own just insecurities in general. I think comparison runs rampant, especially on

social media. So I would love to say it's just a lack of

education. I mean, I think sure there's some of that, Allie, but I think a lot of it has to do with

the fact that we really don't understand who we are as embodied people. We compartmentalize ourselves. Our bodies sort of are this

other, which is, by the way, it's not a new problem. It goes all the way back to Gnosticism.

But I think we just look at ourselves in bits and pieces and parts and compartments.

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