Always so great to talk to my favorite astronaut Mike Massimino. He has a new book called

Moonshot. This guy has been through so much stuff.

He is a case study on achieving your dreams. Again, his book is Moonshot and he's an astronaut so such an interesting conversation here's Mike.

This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altager show. I appreciate so much you coming on the podcast again. I appreciate you having me back on.

Just good to see you. Thank you.

And great book. I really enjoyed it.

This was different from your earlier book that we spoke about,

which was more like autobiography,

and this is more what you learn from all these different experiences and there's a little bit of overlap

which I want to talk about but you know this book Moonshot it's very interesting the idea that

you know it's almost like you personally have like leaned into the things that are most difficult and impossible

like there was one story in the beginning that had a lot of impact on me which was you talked about

the guy who applied for the astronaut program and they

said no and he didn't want to apply again because he figured they'll just reject me and

you got accepted like on your fourth or fifth time applying and you went through all this stuff.

So I wanted to... It was interesting though how like that almost inspired you the fact that that guy wasn't going to apply again and explain that.

Yeah, and I appreciate you bringing up that story.

And what it was is that I had been rejected at this point.

It was my third time. I was medically

disqualified on top of it that when I might so I got rejected outright twice and in my

third time I got an interview but then I was medically disqualified through the revision issue that I was trying to clear up because I didn't want to give up and at the time it didn't seem hopeful.

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