What an incredible podcast with an incredible human being.

Robert Green, author of the 48 Laws of Power,

has just released a special edition of the 48 Laws of Power.

It's a book unlike any I've seen before.

First, the design of the book is,

it's like a living sculpture.

And of course, if any of you have read the 48 laws of power, I'd encourage you to reread it.

There are thousands of stories in there.

It's like the history of the world through the eyes of someone learning about power and persuasion and

seduction and war and stories from all over the world all over history.

It's such an incredibly deep book. I've probably read it more than a dozen times and

Robert and I have a great discussion about it. And also we start off with him giving me advice on my next book and so that was very interesting.

Robert Green is one of my heroes as a writer and for him to listen to him give me advice on writing is really wonderful as well.

So hope you enjoy this conversation and here's Robert Green, author of the 48th, the special edition also of the 48 Laws of Power just released.

25th anniversary edition. This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altager show. playing tournament chess where I was a chess master. I was after the 25 year break I was starting again and my goal was as an older

person in my 50s now trying to reach the level that I was at before and it's been a fascinating experience.

It's been unbelievable the adventures.

I want to hear about it.

I'd like to talk about it.

You know, I think it's something I can explore as we talked about last time through the lens of my book mastery.

You know, I'd love to hear more about it. So let's definitely talk about that.

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