For as long as I've known the NBA, it's been a Star's League.

But even among the stars, there's an exclusive club.

Russell and Dr. J. Jordan, Kobe.

They're all part of a select group that paved the way for the NBA superstar up to date.

And some even shared secrets with each other along the way.

From Spotify and the Ringer Podcast Network, I'm Jackie McMone.

And this is the Icons Club.

YouTube series called Hot Ones.

And it's a show that I've been on.

And I can attest that it is incredibly difficult to do and all real.

And everything I say in this interview where you should win an Emmy, a Peabody award,

whatever you can win in journalism, I think you should win it.

Because the show, the context that everything happens, I think takes away from the actual interviewing prowess of Sean Evans.

Yeah, and I think what was amazing about what you talk about, Sean too, is he found this thing,

this very simple, genius notion of, hey, what if we made people who are so outside of our league,

just these lofty celebrities?

What if we brought them down to earth and made them eat chicken wings?

And at first, nobody was watching, but he committed to this simple idea and built from there.

That's what I find remarkable.

And I really very much enjoyed having them on because there are moments where you might have a friend,

they say, I have an idea, I want to do this.

And everyone's like, that's a fucking bad idea.

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