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The Rich Roll Podcast

The Science Of Happiness: Dr. Laurie Santos Shares Evidence-Based Tools For Genuine Joy, Why We Chase The Wrong Things & What Actually Creates Well-Being

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 150 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Laurie Santos is a renowned psychology professor at Yale University and creator of the most popular course in Yale's history: "Psychology and the Good Life." This conversation explores why our intuitions about happiness are spectacularly wrong and the mental health crisis plaguing young people. We discuss how our brains mislead us about well-being, the power of negative visualization, and evidence-based "rewirements" to overcome our natural biases.  Along the way, she shares the stark reality among elite students and practical strategies for authentic happiness. Laurie brings science to humanity's quest for happiness. Essential for anyone seeking genuine well-being. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: Lincoln Financial: Watch The Action Plan series and learn how Lincoln can help you make your pastimes last a lifetime 👉 lincolnfinancial.com/richroll                              On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉 on.com/richroll AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉 drinkAG1.com/richroll          Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much 👉 airbnb.com/host  WHOOP: The all-new WHOOP 5.0 is here! Get your first month FREE 👉 join.whoop.com/Roll Momentous: 35% OFF your first subscription👉 livemomentous.com/richroll    Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

Transcript

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0:00.0

We as a species have always been obsessed with happiness. The culture apparatus that we surround

0:05.3

ourselves with is telling us all the wrong things to do, right? Go for money, go for status, just buy

0:09.8

something, change your circumstances, you'll feel happier. And what we know is like those are wrong.

0:14.0

We go after those things at the expense of social connection, time for rest. We kind of forego those

0:19.7

great things in the service of stuff that's not going to

0:22.3

make us feel good. I think if these strategies is almost like preventative mental health,

0:26.7

so you can have your little a la carte snack list of different strategies you use to feel happier.

0:31.5

And if you can manage to turn them into habits to put them into effect, you'll wind up reaping the

0:35.9

benefits.

0:39.5

Hey, everybody, welcome to the podcast. Today's version of which is focused entirely on happiness.

0:47.8

My guest for this very broad and somewhat elusive subject matter is Dr. Laurie Santos, who is a professor of psychology

0:56.9

and the head of Silliman College at Yale University, where she teaches psychology and the good

1:03.3

life, which is one of, if not the, most popular courses at Yale. And we're going to get right

1:10.1

into it in a sec, but first.

1:19.2

What if we've all been thinking about our future wrong? What if there is no finish line?

1:24.2

What if there's only a through line? Well, that's the idea behind a special project I've been

1:29.2

working on with Lincoln Financial, a four-part series of mini documentaries in which each episode

1:35.6

features me spending the better part of a day with a remarkable human to understand what it

1:41.8

really takes to evolve with intention over the long haul and how to

1:46.5

sustain what you love across the physical, mental, and financial dimensions of life.

1:51.3

My guests include something for everyone, Andre Agassi, tennis legend, Olympian Sarah True,

1:57.2

musician Walker Hayes, and Morgan Howousel an expert in personal finance.

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