Hi, it's Mike. It's Saturday. It's the Saturday show. And what we do on Saturdays is one of two things,

one from the vault, one from the week, a standard format for the Saturday show. We also play you

an interview or an appearance that I might have done on another podcast. And that is the case today.

It is also kind of a twist

on one from the vault and one from the week. This is one from the future in that Rui Tashara of the

Liberal Patriot and I talk about a piece that I will be writing, that a piece I've been stewing on,

that a piece that's been germinating, and it's the idea of could, I can announce it here,

of the scalpel and the chainsaw. Perhaps I've talked about it in other formats. We can't really

have any progress, can we in America, without going too far, without being Elon Musk on stage

with the chainsaw because there is some bloat in government.

And for a second, just putting aside the, I hate this phrase, good faith assessment of Elon Musk,

even when someone really does want to change things in a massive way,

they either fail or do way too little or get thwarted by and tangled up in the

system, which is pretty much the whole lesson of abundance, that book, that idea. Or they go so

far and they make it such an all of government or all of society overhaul that it either doesn't work

or the solution is worse than the problem, the cure, worse than the disease.

And in this interview, you'll hear Ruey Tashire of the Liberal Patriot offer,

D.I. excess as that. I didn't consider it beforehand,

but this is why it's interesting to talk to a guy like Rui. Maybe I'll bat around that idea

when it eventually becomes a written essay. It could become a spiel. Got a lot of outlets.

And this was a good one. Thank you for joining me on the Saturday shows.

And check out Rui's own podcast. This is what the episode was taken from, was untimely ripped from, to quote McBeth, the liberal patriot.

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