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Ben Terris: "Visiting A Parallel Universe"

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Today on The Gist, Mike breaks down Judge Richard Leon's ruling that Pete Hegseth's attempt to strip Senator Mark Kelly of his rank was absolute "horse feathers." Then, Ben Terris of New York Magazine joins to discuss his feature on the health of the President in 2026. They discuss the "talking points" held by Walter Reed doctors, the vanity behind the hand bruises, and the difficulty of assessing Trump's mental acuity when his inner circle has committed to the bit. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/⁠ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.substack.com/ Follow us on Social Media:⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/ X https://x.com/pescami TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ad-sales@libsyn.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist

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0:00.0

It's Thursday, February 13th, 2026 from Peachfish Productions.

0:07.6

It's the gist.

0:08.4

I'm Mike Peska.

0:09.7

It was a great order on two levels from Judge Richard Leon of the District Court of the

0:14.7

District of Columbia.

0:16.2

A couple districts there.

0:17.7

And he laid it down the strict dissing, did the district court judge.

0:23.7

All right, that's stretch district, strict diss of Pete Heggseth.

0:28.1

Because what Pete Heggseth was trying to do was to strip Senator Mark Kelly, also Captain

0:34.8

Mark Kelly, of rank and pay.

0:37.2

And this would not fly, said Justice Leon. Senator Kelly

0:41.2

does have First Amendment rights. And I even tweeted where I went through the judge's ruling.

0:46.7

I look for everything that ended in an exclamation. There was a lot. Defendants respond that

0:52.0

Senator Kelly is seeking to exempt himself from the rules of

0:54.9

military justice that Congress has expressly made applicable to retired service members.

1:00.9

Horse feathers! In other words, the horse feathers argument was a description of what

1:05.4

Hegsseth was saying. If legislators do not feel free to express their views and the views of their constituents without fear of reprisal from the executive or representative system of government cannot function.

1:20.3

Simply put, defendants, remember it was Kelly brought the action, so Heggseth was defending it.

1:26.2

Defendant's response is anemic explanation.

1:30.2

This is a troubling development of free country.

1:32.8

Exclamation!

1:34.0

And then later, please!

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