THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION: 7/8: The Oswalds: An Untold Account of Marina and Lee by Paul R. Gregory
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THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION: 7/8: The Oswalds: An Untold Account of Marina and Lee by Paul R. Gregory
https://www.amazon.com/Oswalds-Untold-Account-Marina-Lee/dp/1635768217
Merely two hours after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, television cameras captured police escorting a suspect into Dallas police headquarters. Meanwhile at the University of Oklahoma, watching the coverage in the student center, Paul Gregory scanned the figure in dark trousers and a white, V-neck tee shirt and saw the bruised and battered face of Lee Harvey Oswald. Shocked, Gregory said, “I know that man.” In fact, he knew Oswald and his wife Marina better than almost anyone in America.
After sixty years, Paul Gregory finally tells everything he knows about the Oswalds and how he watched the soul of a killer take shape.
Identified by the FBI as a “known associate of LHO,” Gregory soon faced interrogations by the Secret Service. Later he would testify before the Warren Commission. Here, in The Oswalds, he offers the intimate details of his time spent with Lee and wife Marina in their run-down duplex on Mercedes Street in Fort Worth, Texas, and his admission into the inner world of a young marriage before candidly assessing the murder that marked a turning point in our country’s history. His riveting recollection includes memories both casual and deadly serious, such as the dinner at his parents’ house introducing Marina to the “Dallas Russians,” a front-yard incident of spousal abuse, and a further rift in the marriage when he exposed to Marina that Oswald was not the dashing, radical intellectual whose Historic Diary would be a publishing sensation. And Gregory also gives a fascinating account of his father’s role as an eyewitness to history, serving as Marina’s translator and confidante in the first four days after the assassination.
As a scholar and skilled researcher, Gregory debunks the vast array of assassination conspiracy theories by demonstrating that Lee Harvey Oswald did it and did it alone—that the Oswald he once called a friend had the motive, the intelligence, and the means to commit one of the most shocking crimes in American history.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Bash, the book is the Oswald, Paul Gregory, an untold account of Marina and Lee. |
| 0:11.2 | The President is dead, Officer Tippett is dead, the Javier Oswald is dead, Jack Ruby |
| 0:16.5 | will die in future of cancer as my memory. |
| 0:19.8 | However, all of these facts, in addition to once we've not been able to explore, are |
| 0:25.2 | part of the Warren Commission charge to investigate everything that happened that day, |
| 0:30.6 | what the assassin before, who the assassin knew, what he talked about, and there are clues |
| 0:36.9 | in all directions that if you apply the logic of conspiracy thinking, say, well, what about this? |
| 0:43.7 | And it goes to the fact that not only did America think and continues to think in large |
| 0:49.3 | number, that other people were involved in the killing besides this 24-year-old, delusional, |
| 0:56.6 | arrogant, and extremely violent young man Lee Harvey Oswald, but also at the time, the |
| 1:01.8 | presidium of the Soviet Union thought it. |
| 1:04.7 | They had a meeting immediately when they realized that Lee Harvey Oswald had been somebody |
| 1:09.3 | they'd pampered for three years by giving him his own apartment in Minsk. |
| 1:13.3 | They'd had watched the KGB had watched him very carefully using a cutout named Pavel, |
| 1:18.9 | not only to watch him as a friend in Minsk, but also to continue to correspond with him |
| 1:25.4 | while he was in Texas, and in one correspondence, Pavel's name is mentioned. |
| 1:30.2 | So their facts going back and forth with this current cutout, he's not necessarily his |
| 1:35.2 | name is Pavel, not necessarily KGB, but he works for the KGB, and there's a very slight |
| 1:40.2 | distinction in the days of the Cold War. |
| 1:43.5 | So Pa, we need now to go to your experience of the Warren Commission. |
| 1:48.0 | You take us to Deely Plaza, I think right before you're going to testify, you give an |
| 1:55.1 | affidavit that's going to go to the Warren Commission. |
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