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THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION: 6/8: The Oswalds: An Untold Account of Marina and Lee by Paul R. Gregory

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🗓️ 23 July 2023

⏱️ 8 minutes

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THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION: 6/8: The Oswalds: An Untold Account of Marina and Lee by Paul R. Gregory

https://www.amazon.com/Oswalds-Untold-Account-Marina-Lee/dp/1635768217

Merely two hours after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, television cameras captured police escorting a suspect into Dallas police headquarters. Meanwhile at the University of Oklahoma, watching the coverage in the student center, Paul Gregory scanned the figure in dark trousers and a white, V-neck tee shirt and saw the bruised and battered face of Lee Harvey Oswald. Shocked, Gregory said, “I know that man.” In fact, he knew Oswald and his wife Marina better than almost anyone in America.


After sixty years, Paul Gregory finally tells everything he knows about the Oswalds and how he watched the soul of a killer take shape.
Identified by the FBI as a “known associate of LHO,” Gregory soon faced interrogations by the Secret Service. Later he would testify before the Warren Commission. Here, in The Oswalds, he offers the intimate details of his time spent with Lee and wife Marina in their run-down duplex on Mercedes Street in Fort Worth, Texas, and his admission into the inner world of a young marriage before candidly assessing the murder that marked a turning point in our country’s history. His riveting recollection includes memories both casual and deadly serious, such as the dinner at his parents’ house introducing Marina to the “Dallas Russians,” a front-yard incident of spousal abuse, and a further rift in the marriage when he exposed to Marina that Oswald was not the dashing, radical intellectual whose Historic Diary would be a publishing sensation. And Gregory also gives a fascinating account of his father’s role as an eyewitness to history, serving as Marina’s translator and confidante in the first four days after the assassination.
As a scholar and skilled researcher, Gregory debunks the vast array of assassination conspiracy theories by demonstrating that Lee Harvey Oswald did it and did it alone—that the Oswald he once called a friend had the motive, the intelligence, and the means to commit one of the most shocking crimes in American history.

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0:00.0

And John that's with Paul Gregory of the Hoover Institution, who is the author of the

0:08.7

new book The Oswald, filled with stunning facts about the tragedy of the murder of John

0:15.7

F. Kennedy and then the murder of Officer Tippett and then the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald.

0:22.5

These things are overwhelming America that's seeing it on live television as if something

0:28.4

has happened to the world we spun out of control one after another.

0:34.5

We come to the funeral of Lee Harvey Oswald, the president's on television to be buried

0:38.3

in Arlington, Margarit and Marina with two babies are now going to attempt to bury Lee

0:45.9

Harvey Oswald in a cemetery called Rose Hill.

0:50.7

They have difficulty finding a pastor, they do find a mortuary and Lee Harvey Oswald

0:56.4

is coffin is carried to the grave by reporters who were on the scene.

1:01.1

It's a barren scene, wind swept in my imagination Paul reading your copy.

1:06.5

Marina at this point is what mood Paul what did you what did your father say about

1:12.1

Marina witnessing all these events bang bang bang.

1:17.8

Well his story was that she was constantly smoking and drinking coffee.

1:27.4

She was very emotional when they went to Parkland and she viewed the body and there were certain

1:33.2

rituals that Russians perform in such situations and she performed those rituals and she then

1:41.7

asked I want to see the wound but the attending positions did not allow her to see the wound.

1:49.5

So there was some some emotion at that point I would say she was in the in a day so what

1:55.8

would not expect too much.

1:59.3

She was watching the Kennedy funeral and that seemed to impact on her more than anything

2:07.6

because as I say she was quite admiring of Kennedy the family and then seeing Jackie and

2:16.8

seeing Jackie with the kids really destroyed destroyed her.

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