Hey Jim Daley here. If you like the focus on the family broadcast and haven't

grown tired of this voice just yet, you'll love my ReFocus podcast. On ReFocus I

take a deeper dive with a respected thinker on different aspects of culture. I

ask those hard questions that maybe they don't get that often and I don't

shy away from challenging topics to help you share God's grace, truth, and love

with others. So listen to ReFocus with Jim Daley on your favorite streaming app

today.

If you've been talking to somebody and there's a bowl of candy right there next

to them, you might think to yourself, you know, I'm just going to have a piece.

And then after a few moments you realize you got another one and then a third

piece and four pieces, maybe you even have just kind of emptied the bowl as

you have the conversation. That is how sin seems to work with us, especially

secret sin. You think, oh, I can get away with this. Nobody cares. It doesn't affect

anybody. But eventually a little bit can consume your life. I'm John Fuller joined

by my focus colleagues, Dr. Greg Smalley and his wife Aaron. And we're going to

hear now from Dave Samuel and his wife, Kirsten. They went through a very dark

period in their marriage. After it was revealed, he was addicted to pornography.

Here Dave talked to Jim Daley about how that addiction started. Let's pick it up

right there. It was so good last time. So painful. You both had tears. I get it.

And I so appreciate your willingness to share the story because people will

be helped. And that's the bottom line. Dave, I want to ask you because we didn't

really cover this territory last time. That addiction problem. Where did it start?

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