Hey Jim Daley here. If you like the focus on the family broadcast and haven't

grown tired of this voice just yet, you'll love my ReFocus podcast. On ReFocus I

take a deeper dive with a respected thinker on different aspects of culture. I

ask those hard questions that maybe they don't get that often and I don't

shy away from challenging topics to help you share God's grace, truth, and love

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When you've been hurt by your spouse, it's easy to criticize them for all the

problems in your relationship. But there's an old saying that says when you

have one finger pointed at someone else, you're pointing three back at

yourself, meaning when you're focused on your spouse's sin, sometimes that's

when God convicts you of your own sin. I'm John Fuller along with Greg and

Aaron Smolley. They lead our marriage department here and Dave and Kirsten

Samuel are former colleagues here at Focus. Kirsten was deeply hurt when she

discovered Dave was struggling with pornography. Over time though, God quietly

reminded her of her need for grace as well. Here's Jim Daley.

Kirsten, I do want to ask you how God confronted you about your wedding

vows. I mean, that sounds odd at this point. People go, what? How did God use

your wedding vows to bring that back to you and say, wait a minute?

Well, the little preface to that was we told you that our son was overseas in

school. And so we had to leave a message for him. And he called, he called and

talked with and Dave told him what had happened. And he said, well, I forgive

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