I am Sarah Jane Case and this is Anya Graham and Coffee.

Hello friends, happy Tuesday. I hope your day is doing you well.

Today we're beginning a brand new series all about the balance between pleasure and production.

But first today's Rosebud and Thorn. My roast today is that normally when I stop by the coffee shop

in the afternoon, there's one I cross from the office. I get an espresso and I sit there and I

read for a bit while I sit on it and this is a lovely thing. However the last two days,

I've had so much work to do that I really felt antsy doing that so I've been getting an iced brown

sugar latte ticko and I drink it at the office while I do my work and it is such a delight.

The Thorn, I mean can we just give a big thorn, shatrama and trauma triggers? I am working so hard

on the belief that no one else will take ever take care of me. It is so hard and so deeply engrained

that I can very easily be triggered back into the belief that I have to take care of myself and

I'm the only one who's going to meet my needs. I've been working so hard to counter that voice

in my mind with data which there is so much of that shows me that that's not true, but it is

so much work. There's just a lot of effort in going on here. My bud is that tomorrow I have a day

of self-care planned. My boys are going on a camping trip for the night so while they're gone,

I'm going to do some fun things just for me. Okay, so let's have a conversation around productivity

and pleasure. Back in May we discussed productivity culture and why it is prevalent and how to not

let it be what causes your burnout. However, it still feels though there is more to say. And the

trouble that I have with the conversation around productivity is that it's really not as easy as

right or wrong like we should be productive or we shouldn't focus on productivity at all.

It is kind of always both and while I hope that you aren't measuring your worth by productivity,

the reality is that most of us have things we have to do either for a job or for our household,

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