Welcome to Beg to Beg to Differ, the Bull Works Weekly Roundtable discussion featuring civil conversation

across the political spectrum.

We range from center left to center right.

I'm Mona Charon, policy editor at The Bulwork and syndicated columnist, and I'm joined by our regulars,

Damon Linker, who writes the sub-stack newsletter, Notes from the Middle Ground, Bill Galston,

who writes for the Wall Street Journal and is affiliated with the Brookings Institution,

and Linda Chavez of the Niskanin Center.

Our special guest this week is Ed Luce, who is the U.S. editor for The Financial Times, as well as a columnist.

So welcome one and all.

Let's begin with Campus on Rest.

We talked about it last week but it has escalated since then.

We've now had students occupy a building at Columbia University and police were called in and extricated them.

We have had more than a hundred campuses around the country,

have now had protests or encampments about the Gaza-Israel conflict and at

UCLA we had violence and police called in there as well.

Damon, I remember last week, we asked you how things were at Penn.

You said they were quiet and then like within a few hours you had to email us all and say,

he spoke too soon. So that's what we're dealing with.

So I want to begin with our guest Ed Luce because Ed, you and I both wrote about this this week a little slightly different

emphasis but you wrote a piece that's been getting a lot of attention where you said

the problem isn't the kids it's the grown-ups so why don't you tell us your view of this? Yeah, I mean this isn't to say that the

kids and I know they're technically not kids. Students are adults legally but it isn't to say

...