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All right. So another guest coming on for season two to talk about some of her story,

but then also some helpful points that we can learn from her story,

and especially for the Reformed Church learning from her story. So you've been, you have been aware of Doug Wilson for quite some time for a little over

decade.

How were he introduced to him and his teaching, and not him personally, but what he's done,

his writings, his videos, whatnot.

And did it infiltrate or influence your church at all?

Yes. So, yeah, I think the first time I learned about Doug Wilson, I was probably close to being in fourth grade.

My grandmother was a member of a PCA church in Idaho, not Moscow, but she was in Idaho.

And there was an elder there who was influential, and he was promoting Doug Wilson and Federal

Religion theology, and it resulted in a church split, and that church basically dissolved.

So that was my first introduction to Doug Wilson.

And then did it enter into my church?

Unfortunately, yes, it did.

The church I grew up in, I'm a U.R.C. pastor's daughter.

The church I grew up in, there was a prominent man who was a deacon, one of the founding members of that church, had six kids,

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