The red reshuffle overshadows Reform
Coffee House Shots
The Spectator
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🗓️ 5 September 2025
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
Lucy Dunn catches up with Tim Shipman at Reform's party conference, taking place in Birmingham, to get his reaction to Labour's reshuffle. The reshuffle took place following Angela Rayner's resignation from government. Tim argues that it's clear the reshuffle centred around getting Shabana Mahmood into the Home Office, where she can tackle some of the biggest issues for Labour – small boats and asylum hotels.
They also round up the goings on at Reform including leader Nigel Farage's speech, who claimed Labour's reshuffle proved an election could be sooner than we think...
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| 0:38.7 | involves risk. Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm Lucy Dunn and today I'm joined by |
| 0:49.4 | Tim Schipman. Tim, talk about a big day in politics. We're at the Reform Conference in Birmingham, but it would appear the biggest news of the day is back in London. And so we now resigned from our three roles of Deputy Prime Minister, Housing Minister, and Deputy Labour Leader. And Kyrsummer promptly began a Cabinet reshuffle, which is only just finished. What are the top lines in the reshuffle? Yeah, I mean, as someone who wrote four books about the crazy decade in British politics, |
| 1:13.0 | there were many days where journalists looked at each other and thought, |
| 1:16.4 | this is just all a bit bad shit. |
| 1:18.8 | And today has been one of those days. |
| 1:20.9 | There was dinner last night where various people wondered whether they needed to go back to London |
| 1:24.7 | in case Angela Rain had resigned. |
| 1:26.0 | And the trains between |
| 1:28.2 | London and Birmingham have been buzzing all day with hacks working out where the big story is. |
| 1:33.1 | So I think the truth is that they're both big stories. This is a party preparing for government. |
| 1:40.0 | And I've just been listening to Michael Gove interview Zia Youssef, the former chairman, the guy |
| 1:45.7 | who's now been put in charge of policy, and he's discussing, you know, how reform are preparing |
| 1:50.3 | for government. |
| 1:51.0 | And Michael asked him, you know, what was the worst thing the government had done? |
| 1:56.5 | Zia couldn't think of the best thing the government had done at all. |
| 1:58.8 | But he said the worst thing was not prepared for being in government. And frankly, what we're seeing with the reshuffle, |
| 2:04.7 | while it's been caused by Angela Rainer and an ethics problem and the fact that she's had to resign, |
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