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Reform's Zia Yusuf in conversation with Michael Gove

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Daily News, Politics

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

At the Reform conference in Birmingham, the Spectator's editor Michael Gove sat down with Reform UK's head of their department of government efficiency Zia Yusuf. They discussed Labour's track record in government, Zia's faith and his tech background, why leader Nigel Farage is his political hero and how AI could change Britain.

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0:00.0

We are exceptionally lucky to have Zia Yusuf joining us.

0:11.3

Zia, as you will know, has been appointed today as the intellectual powerhouse

0:16.1

who will be driving reforms policy agenda in the run-up to the next general election.

0:21.0

So please put your hands together to welcome the spectator's guest this afternoon, Zia Yusif.

0:36.8

Zia, welcome on to the spectator stage. You've been at spectator events before, and today

0:43.1

Nigel announced that you are going to be driving the policy agenda for the next general election.

0:49.4

What does that role involve, and what are the top two or three priorities in terms of policy that you will be

0:55.3

working on well first of all thank you all for being here it's so important you know we have so much

1:02.2

energy and optimism as part of this conference and it's what fuels all of us it fuels the entire

1:09.4

entire movement thanks to the spectator for hosting this event too.

1:14.6

So what is head of policy means?

1:16.6

It's kind of exactly what it sounds like, you know, it's what it says on the tin.

1:20.6

We've got to get together a group, quite a large group actually, of people who really know their stuff who have common sense

1:29.2

who are fearless who have courage who are going to work together and put together the most

1:33.6

cohesive and patriotic and first principles policy agenda that is going to be the foundation

1:41.1

of a reform first term of government.

1:45.0

I sincerely believe if the British people see fit to elect a reform government,

1:50.0

the Nigel will be the most transformative Prime Minister of our lifetimes in this country,

1:55.0

and not by a little bit, I think by a lot, in no small part,

1:59.0

because that'll be exactly what the doctor will avoid it.

2:01.8

I mean, the state the country is in now, and I say this with no joy whatsoever,

2:08.2

will pale into insignificance by the time the shambolic clownish labor government are done with it.

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