The Rachel de Souza One
Political Thinking with Nick Robinson
BBC
4.6 • 2.5K Ratings
🗓️ 14 May 2021
⏱️ 39 minutes
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The Children’s Commissioner on tackling failing schools, online safety and knowing your Aristotle
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:05.1 | Welcome to Political Thinking. It has been a good week, not for one, but for two political leaders. |
| 0:12.3 | Boris Johnson, an Angela Reiner. |
| 0:15.5 | She's proved that old rule of politics, that a real party leader is only as strong as their ability |
| 0:22.6 | to win over the voters, or to motivate their own party. |
| 0:27.4 | When Keir Starmer found that he could not move Reiner to the job he wanted, |
| 0:31.6 | he could not get the backing to do so on top of losing the support at the ballot box. |
| 0:37.9 | We knew that it was a good week for her and a bad week for him. |
| 0:42.8 | Well, what I heard on the doorstep is, isn't it? No, what Keir Starmer stood for? |
| 0:46.0 | So that's what I think our challenge is actually. |
| 0:48.0 | It's not, you know, people brief in saying we think Keir thinks this, we think Keir thinks that, |
| 0:52.6 | but actually about, well, what are we doing? |
| 0:54.6 | Keir Starmer finds himself in the agonising position of finding that he's being told by the parties left, |
| 1:01.1 | including Len McCluskey, who was on this podcast last week, that the only way to success |
| 1:07.1 | is to go back to the pledges he made to get elected leader, to go back in other words, |
| 1:12.2 | to Labour's losing manifesto of 2019. |
| 1:15.8 | Simultaneously, he's been told by the parties right, that the only route to success |
| 1:20.8 | is to rip that all up and to start again. No wonder Boris Johnson is smiling. |
| 1:27.9 | Smiling too, because this is a week in which he unveiled a Queen's speech, a list of government |
| 1:33.6 | legislation, which even those generous to the Prime Minister would say looked painfully thin. |
| 1:40.4 | A series of vote-winning measures, but no room for crucial things, like the reform of social care. |
| 1:47.9 | One thing it did have in it was an online safety bill, but it is a bill that doesn't go as far |
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