The Len McCluskey Election Special One
Political Thinking with Nick Robinson
BBC
4.6 • 2.5K Ratings
🗓️ 7 May 2021
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
The Unite General Secretary on Labour’s electoral woes, Starmer’s ‘failure’ and the politics of football
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:04.7 | Hello and welcome to Political Thinking with Nick Robinson. |
| 0:08.7 | If voting changed anything they'd abolish it, that joke has rarely seemed less true than |
| 0:15.4 | it does this weekend. |
| 0:17.3 | The results of the Hartley Pool by-election will surely change the Labour Party, either |
| 0:23.5 | making or breaking, not just Kia Starma, but the project of making Labour re-electable. |
| 0:31.8 | I can't remember a moment since the late 80s and the early 90s, when the question of |
| 0:38.3 | whether Labour can win again seems more urgent. |
| 0:43.7 | And I had a sense of that. |
| 0:45.5 | When Steve Reed, the party spokesman on local government and communities, was put on to |
| 0:51.4 | the today programme just minutes after the result in Hartley Pool and instead of trying |
| 0:56.6 | to explain it away, instead of insisting you had to see it in context, admitted it had |
| 1:03.0 | been little short of a disaster. |
| 1:05.6 | There's no hiding from the fact this is a shattering result for Labour, absolutely |
| 1:10.9 | shattering. |
| 1:11.9 | And for a town like Hartley Pool, it's been Labour. |
| 1:14.5 | We have a breach of trust between too much of the British electorate and the Labour Party |
| 1:19.0 | and we haven't done enough to repair it over this past year. |
| 1:22.9 | Within minutes of the result, the warring Labour factions were firing off their version |
| 1:28.8 | of events onto social media. |
| 1:31.7 | There was either too much Corbinism or not nearly enough. |
| 1:36.6 | It felt to me very like the war that used to happen in the Tory party. |
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